Warrior

Unifying Ox and Minotaur Types

New 16 Jul 2024 Asked by josphitia 11 Comments

Has there ever been any thought to combining the Ox and Minotaur creature types? Such as simplifying both to simply "Cow?" I'm a huge fan of bovines in all forms and it would be nice if all of the Ox in magic worked alongside their more anthropomorphic cousins the Minotaur. As it is now we're lucky to really get cards of *either* type printed. There's resonance to the name Minotaur, no doubt, but it also has its share of baggage. It has Greek connotations and that's probably a big reason Minotaurs are almost strictly in Theros (although some favorites, such as Neheb, are from other planes). I was happy that Outlaws had more Ox cards, but it also highlights my dissatisfaction: Holy Cow is an *ox* not a cow, despite the name. It feels like a retread of the Hound or Naga debacle all over again. Hound was simplified to Dog and all Snakes, from rattlesnakes to Naga, are simply the type Snake now. This allows snakes and dogs of all walks benefit from a shared unity. Cats had it right, we didn't need Leonin as a separate type.I just feel like there's unnecessary separation being created by dividing Ox and Minotaur and it has the same resonance failings as all dogs being labeled "hounds" had. If it's important for a particular creature to *be* a minotaur then they can just *have* minotaur in their name, like ~30% of minotaurs already do. There's also the simple fact that Minotaur is a longer average creature type, limiting design space for other types to be included. It's hard to justify why a Minotaur is on a random plane, but much less so if it's simply a "Cow Warrior" for example. As for why I think "Cow" should just be the combined type name, I simply think it fits. Cow is a resonant name. Almost everyone, East to west, knows *of* cows if only because their milk is such a widely used commodity. We don't call it "Ox's milk" after all. More than that, it's fun! Cow is *funny* in the same way *squirrel* is funny. It's amusing to see "Squirrels you control" in this game full of fighting. In that vein, "Cows you control" is an amusing line that can help break up the seriousness of a setting. I know this is making a mountain out of a molehill, but magic is a game of different perspectives coming together and creating something new. Cows are my favorite animal and it's simply dissatisfying, to me, that my Holy Cow can't benefit from a Kragma Warcaller. That Angrath, colloquially named "Cow Dad" in the community, would have the creature type "Minotaur." The only downside I can see is that "Cow" *does* specifically refer to females of a bovine species. But that is a distinction few, if any, seriously take into consideration. If one sees a field of cows, they're not saying "I see lots of cows and 3 bulls!" They're going to say "I see cows!"So to bring the thesis back, has there been any discussion internally to simplifying the Minotaur and Ox creature types under a single banner, such as "Cow?" I would also happily settle for "Cattle" as the new type. I just feel the current Ox vs Minotaur divide has to go, for both flavor and mechanical reasons, and the sooner the better.


I have been on Team Cow (as I was on Team Dog) for many years. I even made Cows in Un-sets. I still believe Minotaur should be its own creature type though.

Bat Warriors Nickname

New 14 Jul 2024 Asked by strymon 10 Comments

Are Bat Warriors known as Combats?


To those in the know. : )

Bird Versus Mole Mechanics

New 12 Jul 2024 Asked by puddlemereunited25-blog 16 Comments

Now that Bloomburrow is in preview season, feels like a great opportunity to ask a question about magic which has always bugged me. How come birds get to fly but moles and other similar creatures don't get an evasion mechanic called "burrow" (i.e. flying but underground)?


Because we have an evergreen mechanic called flying and not one called burrowing. : )The closest we have to burrowing is “target creature with power 2 or less is unblockable” first seen on Dwarven Warriors in Alpha.

Warrior vs. Berserker

New 18 Jun 2024 Asked by strymon 6 Comments

What is the difference between a Warrior and a Berserker?


Focus.

On Sea Monsters Grouping

New 17 Jun 2024 Asked by chaosascendant-blog 0 Comments

So Outlaw is a grouping (Warlocks, Pirates, Rogues, Merceneries, Assassins), along with Party (Wizard, Rogue, Cleric, Warrior)If/When do we get Sea Monsters for Kraken, Leviathan, Octopus, Serpents as a grouping?


If, but small if.

Chief of the Edge

New 15 Jun 2024 Asked by snivy1245 8 Comments

What does Chief of the Edge do that requires it to also be black? I ask in consideration of Question 28. As far as I can see, an anthem is something that could be done in only white.


We *try* to make all multicolored cards mechanically reflect all colors, but it can’t always be done while meeting other constraints of the set. They’ll get tagged by the Council of Colors, but are allowed to exist if there isn’t an easy fix that works for the set. Chief of Edge isn’t that though. It’s a multicolor signpost for a white/black Warrior typal theme. Both colors can grant power to its creatures. Yes, white does it more often, and usually grants all its creatures while black pumps black subsets. It could have been hybrid from a color pie perspective, but most signposts are multicolored.

Defining Batching in Creatures

New 13 Jun 2024 Asked by jjustin1379 1 Comments

Is aysen crusader, retroactively, the first creature to use batching? Heroes are defined as soldiers and warriors. If you wanted to batch soldiers and warriors again would you use the word heroes?


Batching involves not only grouping items, but also giving a word to reference that grouping. Soldiers and Warriors would not necessarily be called Heroes if they were batched.

Future for Creature Groupings

New 12 Jun 2024 Asked by polarisfluff 15 Comments

Are we going to see more mechanics for groupings of creature types like outlaws in the future? Like maybe fighters (Knights, soldiers, warriors, archers) or critters (rabbits, squirrels, rats, mice, etc) or undead (zombies skeletons vampires spirits)? Where does it sit on the storm scale?


There will be more batching. We do want to be careful how often and how intuitive the groupings are.

Portal Card Reskins

New 14 May 2024 Asked by sjk9000 12 Comments

What's the story behind the cards "Viashino Warrior" and "Lizard Warrior"? They have very similar art and identical MVs and P/Ts. Seems too similar to just be a coincidence. Does it have something to do with "Lizard Warrior" being a Portal card?


Portal had some cards that were reskins of existing cards, but simplified creatively (aka removed proper names new players wouldn’t know).

Concern About Class Typals

New 24 Apr 2024 Asked by jimharbor 26 Comments

Mark, what would you say to people that don't like class typal themes because its isnt clear what cards are of what type? A card being a Spider is clear from looking at the art, but what is and isn't a warrior is far less visibly clear.


I agree it has some visual challenges, but not ones large enough to stop doing it, for two main reasons. One, class typal has a lot of fans. Two, certain themes are more about what people do than who they are. Outlaws of Thunder Junction’s outlaw theme is a fine example. We need a way to mechanically convey that.

New Capenna Inspirations

New 15 Apr 2024 Asked by boltedout 74 Comments

Do you remember the other four movies Mark Gottlieb listed when he first pitched New Capenna?


The Obscura - Oceans ElevenThe Maestros - John WickThe Riveteers - The WarriorsThe Cabaretti - The GodfatherThe Brokers - LA ConfidentialI give more detail in my first Streets of New Capenna preview article:

Potential Fighter Batch

New 15 Apr 2024 Asked by doopboopdoop 32 Comments

Could we see a "fighter" batch with Knights, Soldiers, Warriors, etc in it?


Sure, it’s a potential batch.

Outlaws vs Party Mechanic

New 01 Apr 2024 Asked by oooblyjooblies96 45 Comments

Outlaws (and the oft-suggested 'Sea monsters' batching) seem like a great hit. In retrospect, do you think that - with appropriate modifications to the rest of the set accordingly - Party in ZNR would have been better received as say, 'Party members (Clerics, Rogues, Warriors and Wizards are party members)'?


Party needed you to have one of each which is slightly different than batching.

Viashino Type Preservation

New 31 Mar 2024 Asked by zuiyomaru 35 Comments

I think people feel differently about Viashino than they do about Naga because Viashino have been in the game for so much longer. The Viashino type even predates most Cat Warriors!


Again, we’re not getting rid of Viashino. The race will still exist and appear on cards. All that’s changing is what creature type we use.

Typing Teaser Error

New 29 Mar 2024 Asked by lemonyfresh 39 Comments

Hi Mark, On the teaser list was 'Creature - Rhino Brawler' and today we saw a Rhino Warrior with 'Brawler' in the name. Was there a last minute change in typing?


It was me messing up when I was making my teaser.

Creature Type Error

New 28 Mar 2024 Asked by pikachugirltits 27 Comments

Hey Mark, your teaser listed a Rhino Brawler as one of the creatures types in the set, but the card Railway Brawler was just spoiled as a Rhino Warrior. Was this an error in your teaser or is Brawler a new creature type?


It was an error in the teaser.

Alter Creature Types

New 21 Mar 2024 Asked by cheesedurian2 35 Comments

Can Blue alter creature types in permanents? For example, Blue changes Lovisa Coldeyes to "Each creature that’s a Barbarian, a Warrior, or a FISH gets +2/+2 and has haste."


It could hack creature types in rules text.

Creature Type Choices

New 20 Mar 2024 Asked by deoxys314 25 Comments

Is there an internal reference somewhere with what you're "going for" with creature types? I'm thinking of a designer asking "should this be a Warrior or Soldier token?" When neither type has specific mechanical relevancy in that product. Even without a mechanical throughline, different creature types can evoke different things about the setting or about the action depicted by the card.


Creature types, when not mechanically relevant, are determined by the creative team and are driven by what the creature is flavorfully.

Creature Type Diversity

New 15 Mar 2024 Asked by joeyfog 39 Comments

Just a minor feedback note: I like having soldiers, warriors, berserkers, knights, etc. They all have a different feel to me. Soldiers more uniform, warriors more independent and savage, berserkers a lot more independent and savage, knights very regal and important. All of these are similar but feel really cool


There is enough fighting and magic casting in our game, that we need a number of creature type classes to capture it all.

Thoughts on Soldier Creature Type

New 15 Mar 2024 Asked by kilo-pascal 26 Comments

Just a minor feedback note. I don't find soldiers evocative or engaging as a creature type, especially when compared to knights or warriors. I understand that soldiers have been more supported in the past, but I hoped magic was moving away from them. Nothing against soldier fans, of course.


We make a lot of sets. We can support a lot of creature types. Soldiers definitely have their fans.


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