Naga

Unifying Ox and Minotaur Types

New 16 Jul 2024 Asked by josphitia 11 Comments

Has there ever been any thought to combining the Ox and Minotaur creature types? Such as simplifying both to simply "Cow?" I'm a huge fan of bovines in all forms and it would be nice if all of the Ox in magic worked alongside their more anthropomorphic cousins the Minotaur. As it is now we're lucky to really get cards of *either* type printed. There's resonance to the name Minotaur, no doubt, but it also has its share of baggage. It has Greek connotations and that's probably a big reason Minotaurs are almost strictly in Theros (although some favorites, such as Neheb, are from other planes). I was happy that Outlaws had more Ox cards, but it also highlights my dissatisfaction: Holy Cow is an *ox* not a cow, despite the name. It feels like a retread of the Hound or Naga debacle all over again. Hound was simplified to Dog and all Snakes, from rattlesnakes to Naga, are simply the type Snake now. This allows snakes and dogs of all walks benefit from a shared unity. Cats had it right, we didn't need Leonin as a separate type.I just feel like there's unnecessary separation being created by dividing Ox and Minotaur and it has the same resonance failings as all dogs being labeled "hounds" had. If it's important for a particular creature to *be* a minotaur then they can just *have* minotaur in their name, like ~30% of minotaurs already do. There's also the simple fact that Minotaur is a longer average creature type, limiting design space for other types to be included. It's hard to justify why a Minotaur is on a random plane, but much less so if it's simply a "Cow Warrior" for example. As for why I think "Cow" should just be the combined type name, I simply think it fits. Cow is a resonant name. Almost everyone, East to west, knows *of* cows if only because their milk is such a widely used commodity. We don't call it "Ox's milk" after all. More than that, it's fun! Cow is *funny* in the same way *squirrel* is funny. It's amusing to see "Squirrels you control" in this game full of fighting. In that vein, "Cows you control" is an amusing line that can help break up the seriousness of a setting. I know this is making a mountain out of a molehill, but magic is a game of different perspectives coming together and creating something new. Cows are my favorite animal and it's simply dissatisfying, to me, that my Holy Cow can't benefit from a Kragma Warcaller. That Angrath, colloquially named "Cow Dad" in the community, would have the creature type "Minotaur." The only downside I can see is that "Cow" *does* specifically refer to females of a bovine species. But that is a distinction few, if any, seriously take into consideration. If one sees a field of cows, they're not saying "I see lots of cows and 3 bulls!" They're going to say "I see cows!"So to bring the thesis back, has there been any discussion internally to simplifying the Minotaur and Ox creature types under a single banner, such as "Cow?" I would also happily settle for "Cattle" as the new type. I just feel the current Ox vs Minotaur divide has to go, for both flavor and mechanical reasons, and the sooner the better.


I have been on Team Cow (as I was on Team Dog) for many years. I even made Cows in Un-sets. I still believe Minotaur should be its own creature type though.

Efreets as Djinns Transition

New 28 Jun 2024 Asked by solaris-adz 2 Comments

Hello Mark!

Sorry if this already got answered, Pinnacle Monk in Modern Horizons 3 seems to be an efreet from Tarkir, but in its typeline it's noted as a djinn. Is it the sign that efreet might come to have the same treatment as viashinos, nagas and cephalid in the future? (for thos who dont know, now with MH3 they are respectively lizards, snakes and octopuses)


We are no longer supporting the Efreet creature type. New “Efreets” will be Djinns.

Creature Types Consolidation

New 25 Jun 2024 Asked by fungustober 13 Comments

I'd like to voice my dislike of the paring down of some of the creature types, because I feel like differing viewpoints are good in game design and I've not really seen that many statements voiced in opposition to these changes. My view of it is that it strips out a lot of uniqueness of Magic as a setting. Other settings have humanoid lizards, but they don't have Viashino. Other settings have undersea-dwelling peoples, but they don't have Cephalids. Naga becoming Snake was completely understandable, and I think the justifications for it were valid. I do not think Viashino becoming Lizard or Cephalid becoming Octopus were remotely justified. On top of that, it creates some weird points, where you can see clearly crocodilian humanoids (the Viashino from Alara) now labeled as Lizards, which not only are separate types in Magic, they're not even closely related in real life (crocodiles are more closely related to birds and dinosaurs than lizards). I've seen a number of very loud people advocate for trimming all the "unnecessary" types in Magic out, but their proposals usually end up as "there should be about 20 creature types total." This is not only unsatisfactory from a game design standpoint--as it would make tribal decks a bit *too* easy to accomplish--but absolutely catastrophic from a flavor perspective as well. At that point, why not just have typelines be "TYPE1", "TYPE2", and so forth? Flavor and function have to work together, and sacrificing too much of either is a bad thing. Too little function, and the game becomes unplayable. Too little flavor, and the game becomes cold and sterile. This is not to say that trimming on creature types is a bad thing--I think Magic wouldn't be hurt by trimming on a few more creature types if you asked me--but just that I think the choice of creature types being trimmed is odd, to say the least. Why does a regularly printed creature type with new cards that were printed just earlier this year get the boot, and not something like trilobite, which has all of 5 cards, with a 4 year gap between the printing of the most recent one and the one before that? If this is to help tribal decks, why are there still one-off or two-off creature types being printed, like Varmint and Coyote?


We’re not getting rid of Viashino. They will continue to creatively exist. We will still refer to them in titles and flavor text as Viashino. All we’re doing is consolidating the creature types so that we’re consistent in how we use them. Magic has been treating animal humanoids this way (aka using the animal as the creature type) for two plus decades. All we’re doing is going back and fixing the few that got done before we adopted this policy back in the early days of Magic.

Changing Creature Types

New 14 Jun 2024 Asked by phi8 6 Comments

Hi Mark! About creature types. You’ve said before R&D is skittish about errataing creature types, but there’s been a lot of doing that anyway lately. Apart from changing the types of animal-people like viashino and cephalid to better synergize with their non-anthropomorphic counterparts, sloth was added to a few cards with Fallout, and now dragons from Kaladesh received the cat type. Efreet was phased out in favor of djinn, but not retroactively like naga - all the efreet cards are still efreet, but there won’t be new ones anymore. And lastly, despite both types entering the game around the same time, sloth gets added, detective doesn’t. Arboreal Grazer went from beast to sloth beast, but Dogged Detective stays merely a human rogue.  I’m fully in favor of the general direction that’s taken with creature types, and I also understand the risk of doing a lot of this in a game with paper cards. But the way it’s currently being handled feels extremely inconsistent, and the categorizer in me feels upset!
So, my question is: could you, or someone who is in charge of this, elaborate on the seemingly complex reasonings as to which creature type gets added, added but not errata’d, replaced, or phased out (perhaps in an article)? You’ve said before it’s not, but it really does seem scattershot, and I want to understand.Thank you!


Here’s the problem. It’s mostly done piecemeal which creates the inconsistency you’re talking about. Let me bring it up with the relevant people.

Snake vs Serpent Distinction

New 13 Jun 2024 Asked by zombsidian 13 Comments

So, all Naga have been changed over to Snakes, but what is the substantial difference between Snake creatures and Serpent creatures? Is Serpent just big Snake?


The Serpent creature type in Magic is synonymous with sea monster. It’s not a big snake.

Naga and Snake Types

New 12 Jun 2024 Asked by aalgot 9 Comments

The line is we’re not using names we made up for animal humanoids as creature types. But naga isn’t a wizards original, they exist in several provenly fictional stories (for example the video game Nethack) as well as server other most likely maybee probably but not necessarily fictional stories such as Buddhist mythology, which obviously predates this game. so then why were they swapped to snake?


The change to Naga was not inspired by this rule.

Concern About Creature Type Changes

New 12 Jun 2024 Asked by wildcardgamez 21 Comments

Re: drawing the line for humanoid type changes. Doesn't that mean Naga shouldn't be changed? They aren't an original mtg name. Also, I feel like getting rid of types just because the fantasy races were made by you guys and not storytellers of the past is a bit sad. There are a lot of creatures original to magic that I hope don't go anywhere, like Brushwaggs and Atogs which could be beasts, and Myr or Sliths that could be constructs, or an extreme that I doubt will happen, Eldrazi to horrors. It feels more special.


We’re not getting rid of original creatures we made up. Those will remain. We’re just being consistent with how we treat made-up animal humanoids. Again, a change we made in the late 1990’s.

Transition of Humanoid Animal Races

New 12 Jun 2024 Asked by wildcardgamez 38 Comments

With viashino, naga, and cephalids becoming lizards, snakes, and octopi, I am a bit concerned for other humanoid animal based races. Will minotaur become ox? Will merfolk become fish? I'm very curious where you guys will draw the line on such things


The line is we’re not using names we made up for animal humanoids as creature types. (They’ll still be used in names and flavor text.) Pre-existing names from things like mythology are fine, so Minotaur and Merfolk aren’t going anywhere.

Cephalids, Viashino, and Naga

New 11 Jun 2024 Asked by tomwpost 19 Comments

In the new update, Cephalids have become Octopi, Viashino into Lizards, and Naga into Snakes. Why have Homarids not followed suit?


If Homarids return, I believe they will.

Creature Type Changes

New 15 Apr 2024 Asked by wildcardgamez 32 Comments

With Naga becoming Snake and Viashino becoming Lizard, what do you think the odds are of Minotaur becoming Oxen?


Spectacularly low.

Creature Type Criteria

New 12 Apr 2024 Asked by jonscreenshow 29 Comments

During the most recent creature type errata Naga are being changed to Snake. Jackals have fewer creatures than Nagas, so why weren't they changed to Dog? What's the criteria for a creature type errata if it's not based on creature types with fewer cards being rolled into larger ones?


The simple answer is Jackals aren’t Dogs in the vernacular of how people talk about them. We try to avoid using creature types that make for creative dissonance.

Creature Type Uniqueness

New 04 Apr 2024 Asked by bcrazy713 111 Comments

Hey Mark, on the topic of players being worried about creature types losing their distinctiveness by being added in with the broader type rather than a specific race (ex. Viashino(Lizard) or Naga(Snake)), I looked to see how many are already currently templated this way and there are ALOT more than I realized.Archaic (Avatar), Aven (Bird), Leonin (Cat), Malamet (Cat), Nishoba (Cat Beast), Daemogoth (Demon), Ainok (Dog), Flamekin (Elemental), Loxodon (Elephant), Mycoid (Fungus), Thallid (Fungus), Akki (Goblin), Boggart (Goblin), Mogg (Goblin), Redcaps (Goblin), Eumidian (Insect), Kraul (Insect), Nantuko (Insect), Khenra (Jackal), Kitsune (Fox), Merrow (Merfolk), Selkie (Merfolk), Triton (Merfolk), Onakke (Ogre), Caryatid (Plant), Nezume (Rat), Rhox (Rhino), Amphin (Salamander), Orochi (Snake), Kami (Spirit), Drogskol (Spirit), Eidolon (Spirit), Ent (LoTR) (Treefolk), Trow (Troll), Kappa (Turtle), Liche (Zombie), Eternal (Zombie), Draugr (Zombie), Nim (Zombie), Skaab (Zombie)


Yep. Most of the ones that didn’t do it entered the game before we made this the default.

Viashino Type Preservation

New 31 Mar 2024 Asked by zuiyomaru 35 Comments

I think people feel differently about Viashino than they do about Naga because Viashino have been in the game for so much longer. The Viashino type even predates most Cat Warriors!


Again, we’re not getting rid of Viashino. The race will still exist and appear on cards. All that’s changing is what creature type we use.

Naga Change Update

New 30 Mar 2024 Asked by tauna 21 Comments

Hey Mark! Any news on when the Naga change will go live? Was announced back in November, but nothing has changed still


I’m not sure. Maybe they’re waiting for printed cards to initiate.

Human Exceptionalism Continues

New 30 Mar 2024 Asked by jacethebeltsculptor 129 Comments

Hi, Mark! Since animal humanoids seem to be getting rolled in with their animal counterpoints for typal reasons (Naga becoming Snakes, Viashino becoming Lizards, Leonin having always just been cats), will we see the Human creatures errata'd to just be Apes? Or will the Human exceptionalism continue?


We treat Humans a little different as they currently make up 100% of our playerbase.

Coyote Versus Dog Typing

New 30 Mar 2024 Asked by xyronian 82 Comments

I understand why some older creature types are being rolled together, like Naga and Snake, or Lizard and Viashino. However, is there a reason coyote was introduced in Thunder Junction instead of using Dog?


The problem is we tend to use creature types to match the words people use and not what lines up by species. People call lions and tigers “cats”, but don’t refer to wolves and coyotes as “dogs”.

Creature Type Consolidation

New 30 Mar 2024 Asked by cle-guy 74 Comments

With Naga and now Viashino on the chopping block what creature type is next? Why would homarids, for instance, survive? Or Noggles?


There is a move towards creatures types being more known words if such a thing applies.

Naga vs Snake

New 12 Jan 2024 Asked by birdingbureaucrat 29 Comments

I invoke the privilege of Birthday Trivia! What led to Naga not being creature type Snake like their Kamigawa cousins?


Naga, like Minotaur, is a creature of mythology. When we make a set based on certain mythology, we tend to use the mythological names when possible.Happy Birthday!

Horse Subtype Addition

New 15 Nov 2023 Asked by isaacloomer-blog 30 Comments

With Naga now getting subtype Snake on a scale of 1 (Never going to happen) to 10 (happening soon) when are pegasus & unicorns getting subtype horse?


I don’t have a scale for possible creature variations. I don’t think it’s currently super likely.

Future Nagas

New 05 Nov 2023 Asked by graymerchantsmonomyth 31 Comments

Will Magic have new Nagas in the future, with the snake type?


Maybe. : )


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