Leviathan

Inconsistencies in Sea Monster Typing

New 19 Jun 2024 Asked by magnadrake 5 Comments

On the topic of Sea Monsters, there are some 'sea-monster-like' cards that doesnt have the related types, and some cards with the related types, but have art that maybe doesn't fit the types. Example: Stormtide Leviathan is, as far as I can observe the art, a giant fish, but it has the name and type of Leviathan. Conversely, Fleet Swallower, is also a giant fish, big enough to rival Leviathans, but still just a Fish. Why is this the case?


Because we make a lot of cards and there are only so many constraints we can pay attention to.

Suggestions for Batching Sea Monsters

New 17 Jun 2024 Asked by stwwilkinson 5 Comments

Hi Mark, I've seen a lot of suggestions for batching sea monsters. What about the following alternative: batch all cephalopods (octopus, squid, nautilus, kraken, cephalid), leaving out serpents and leviathans?


Less call for that. This post being the only one. : )

On Sea Monsters Grouping

New 17 Jun 2024 Asked by chaosascendant-blog 0 Comments

So Outlaw is a grouping (Warlocks, Pirates, Rogues, Merceneries, Assassins), along with Party (Wizard, Rogue, Cleric, Warrior)If/When do we get Sea Monsters for Kraken, Leviathan, Octopus, Serpents as a grouping?


If, but small if.

Creature Type Batching

New 06 Jun 2024 Asked by ssriceboat 0 Comments

Hi Mark, Will we see more retroactively established creature type "groups" like we've seen with party and outlaws already? Looking at sea creature types that are commonly grouped, like "Leviathans, Krakens, Octopuses, Merfolk, Serpents". Can you add whale if you do? Thanks.


I assume we’ll do more creature type batching. If we did sea creatures, would people people like Whales added

Batching Sea Creatures

New 21 May 2024 Asked by ryandimiragent 0 Comments

I love batching! The recent Outlaw batch was fantastic flavor, and it got me thinking about something I’ve wondered for a while. Would it be possible to have a “sea creatures” or “sea monsters” batch? We see cards on occasion that care about various sea-related types, like Leviathans, Krakens, and Octopi, but there’s never been exactly a fixed or comprehensive list due to space. Would creating a batch for those types that could include a wider range of types such as crabs, fish, merfolk, homarids, (clamfolk?), and more be possible?


Our internal rule is to limit batches to five, and the sweet spot is three.

Trivia: Slinn Voda Commander Card

New 01 May 2024 Asked by akkorokamui15 34 Comments

Mark! My friend introduced me to your blog just in time to invoke the rite of the birthday trivia. Could I request some trivia about my commander Slinn Voda? Thanks for the interesting and entertaining blog!


Slinn Voda is another card in a series of cards we’ve been making for years that reference Krakens, Leviathans, Octopuses, and Serpents. It started with Kiora, Sovereign of the Deep. Players liked it, so we made more. Happy Birthday and welcome to the blog!

Sea Monsters Query

New 29 Mar 2024 Asked by diazepam666 54 Comments

The "parties" that have appeared in the past and now the "outlaws" are an interesting experiment!
Kiora asked when Kraken, Leviathan, Octopus, and Serpent would become "sea monsters."


Tell her it’s possible in the right set.

Creature Type Specificity

New 24 Jan 2024 Asked by jdrawer01 26 Comments

While I understand many people enjoy the KLOS batching, I appreciated the opportunity to build decks around commanders that cared about Serpents and Krakens specifically. May I request similar cards for Leviathans and Ocotopodes, please?


The more we subdivide things up the harder it becomes to make enough cards to support deck strategies. That doesn’t mean it won’t happen, but it’s a limiting factor.

Segovia Trivia

New 23 Jan 2024 Asked by skullroom 78 Comments

Hi Maro :) I'd like to trade in my survived-another-trip-round-the-sun token for some trivia about Xerex or Segovia pls

I love the planes that have some oddness to them like that, and I know that oddness is exactly why we'll probably never get to see them star in their own sets, so they definitely need more blogatog info to compensate


Segovia came about as basically a joke. This card got printed in Legends:
The Leviathan was obviously huge as evidenced by the whales in the art. But the card was a 3/3. How could that be? This prompted someone, on what was then called the continuity team, to invent a special world where everything is tiny. And as Magic works, once you invent something, it finds ways to get used.Happy Birthday!

Iconic Creature Alternatives

New 30 Sep 2023 Asked by faerross 34 Comments

Has Design ever considered a batch in lieu of an individual iconic creature?

I.e., what if blue's iconic was "sea monsters" (kraken/leviathan/serpent/octopus)?


It kinda of fights the goal of an iconic creature.

Shark Tribe Addition

New 28 Sep 2023 Asked by strymon 62 Comments

Can I please request that Shark be added to the sea creature batch? (Kraken, Leviathan, Octopus, Serpent, or Shark) I eventually want to build a shark deck for my boss - she loves sharks - but there is not a lot of intrinsic support for the tribe. I’m hoping there might be some in Bloomburrow.


The problem with “underwater” batching is there are a lot of things that could be on the list.

Color Philosophy Nuances

New 14 Jul 2023 Asked by theverdantchef 43 Comments

Color philosophy only applies to humans and other humanoid creatures and planeswalkers of that color, right? A leviathan, for example, isn't thinking about achieving perfection through knowledge. A bat is not necessarily more of a selfish opportunist than a bird.


Not every creature in a color holds that color’s philosophy. Some match other components of the color. Zombies aren’t about power through ruthlessness, but do represent harnessing the power of death.

Birthday Thanks from Mark

New 22 Jun 2023 Asked by jsands84 26 Comments

Hello Mark, It is my birthday and I wanted to thank you for a) the typal coupling of serpents, octopuses, leviathans and krakens becoming a recurring theme. It’s led to one of my favorite, most effective decks (and an EDH deck that’s, well, getting there). And b) switching from tribal to typal, even if primarily internally. It’s very cool of you all to take that into consideration. I hope you have a good day. ^_^


I will. Happy Birthday!

Sea Monsters Theme

New 06 May 2023 Asked by finneyflame 53 Comments

Can we get an If/When for a set with "Krakens, Leviathans, Octopi, and Serpents Matter" as a prominent theme?


Prominent? Big if. There just aren’t enough slots for them, especially at common, to get the as-fan high enough.

Sea Monster Classification

New 01 May 2023 Asked by angelfish-777 36 Comments

is there a reason why Nezehal, Primal Tide isn't a leviathan? I mean, it's a giant sea monster. which makes me curious,how do you go about defining Leviathan from Kraken and Kraken from octopus?


It’s a feel thing. There’s definitely some subjectivity.

Segovia Naming Origin

New 01 Apr 2023 Asked by gevth 138 Comments

I had a coworker whose last name is Segovia. He is 6.5 ft tall and weighed easily over 200lb. Any insight or trivia on how Segovia* got its name?*The plane, my coworker probably got it from his father


Here’s the story. Segovian Leviathan was in Legends. Everything about the name and art (see the wee whales) implies it’s a giant creature, but it’s only a 3/3. Players would joke about this, so the creative team came up with an answer. There was a world Segovia (based off the name) where everything is much smaller. That’s why this giant creature is 3/3.

Potential Combined Creature Type

New 20 Dec 2021 Asked by zealouskryptoniteenthusiast 37 Comments

Would you ever consider a combined creature type? For example using the creature type "Sea-Monster", and having rules text that states Sea-Monster is all of the following: Kraken, Leviathan, Octopus, and Serpent. This would make cards like Runo easier to read, and if a new creature type comes out, it would be easy to add it to the list.


When we use batching the card still has to state what the batch covers in reminder text. I’m skeptical we’d use a batch on the card type line.

Blue Mana for Creatures

New 22 Nov 2021 Asked by cheesedurian-deactivated2023010 55 Comments

Could Blue do this? "Add U. Spend this mana only to cast Krakens, Leviathans, Octopuses or Serpents or activate their abilities." (PS: I'm still hoping for Whales.)


Probably. We let colors produce mana for very focused in-color subsets.

Eeriness of Timely Requests

New 27 Oct 2021 Asked by bcrazy713 35 Comments

With y'all working on sets 2 years before release does it ever get eerie when you start getting request for things that re literally about to release? (ex. "Eye horror" , I feel like a lot of ask for this came up with the beholders and the "kraken, leviathan, octopus,..." Has come up alot recently too)


It happens so often, I’m pretty used to it.

Worldwake Card Grouping Trivia

New 26 Oct 2021 Asked by aoliitis 33 Comments

Regarding Whales vs. Krackens, Leviathans, Octopuses, and Serpents. The first card to group them was Quest for Ula's Temple in Worldwake - which only had one kracken: Wrexial, the Risen Deep. Zendikar had 1 Krakens, 1 Octopus and 1 Serpent, but still no Leviathans. However, at the time of Worldwake's printing no whales had been printed since Great Whale in Urza's Saga nearly 12 years prior whereas Alara block had 3 Leviathans (and another was coming in M11).


FYI


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