Old Fogey

Jokes in Card Design

New 12 May 2023 Asked by trifas 38 Comments

The Akrome article raised me one question: how often do cards get changed in the file as a joke? It felt as if someone took "all keywords" too literally and gave tons of unused keywords to make Akroma look like Old Fogey


It seldom happens today. Back in the day, it happen with some frequency.

Old Fogey's Eternity

New 13 Dec 2021 Asked by mikecarlucci 24 Comments

Hi Mark! Would Old Fogey be eternal if printed in Unfinity?


Probably. It does have a few weird interactions, but I think the rules can handle them.

Recalling an Exceptional Game

New 02 May 2020 Asked by ricketyeng 129 Comments

FYI the world's BEST game of Magic has been played by my wife and I and no other can hope to top it: An Enter the Dungeon subgame under the table. Old Fogey played. Frankie Peanuts used his question and Sword of d&d to make a dragon. BINGO was achieved. A 10/10 BINGO was successfully blocked to survive with 1 life. Slaying Mantis was thrown. Frankie Peanuts - "will you give me sweet sweet kisses until end of turn?" meant the final turn included much kissing. And this was all under the table. 


I congratulate you on playing the best ever game of Magic. Thanks for sharing.

Aether Vortex Rules

New 07 Mar 2020 Asked by gamma-3 30 Comments

Un rules question: what happens if I have Yet Another Aether Vortex and the top card of my library phases out? (Such as with Old Fogey, for example)


When it phases out, the card under it will be on top of your library and thus be on the battlefield. When it phases back in, it returns from where it came, the top of your library, covering the card underneath it, removing it from the battlefield. The Old Fogey is now back on the battlefield.

Elder as a Creature Type

New 29 Feb 2020 Asked by exothegamingcuber 32 Comments

RE: Old Fogey being an elder. Elder has been a creature type since the elder dragons came out in legends.


True, but Elder being used on anything but a dragon is pretty new.

Classification of Old Fogey

New 29 Feb 2020 Asked by like-winter-we-are-cruel 32 Comments

How come Old Fogey isn't an Elder Dinosaur? He seems quite old.


The problem is Elder is a newer creature type.

Old Border Card Printing

New 23 Feb 2020 Asked by centurosplaneswalker 48 Comments

If you can't print cards in old border without the collating data AND you downgraded Topsy Turvy specifically to avoid having to add the security stamp... care to explain how Unsanctioned Old Fogey at rare still has neither of those?


We liked the joke of Old Fogey not having the security stamp as the old frame didn’t have it. Collating dara is only necessary for randomized boosters.

Unsanctioned Foil Cards

New 29 Jan 2020 Asked by darkosrox 36 Comments

First of all: Thank you so so so so so much for UnSanctioned! B.O.B Alexander Clamillton and the tokens are my favourite! Secondly i have a question: Will any of the cards in UnSanctioned be foil? And will the reprints of older Un cards look the same in the old mtg design or will they look like current cards? Thank you!


A cycle of the full-art lands is foil, but that’s the only foil cards in the product. All the reprints, save Blast from the Past and Old Fogey, are in new frames, but some have nods to their old frame adjustments.

Old Un-reprints Frame

New 28 Jan 2020 Asked by charjazznable 36 Comments

will the older un-reprints have the new border?


I believe all the cards, save Blast from Past and Old Fogey, have the current card frame. They have a new Unsanctioned expansion symbol.(I assume you meant card frame. They all have a silver border, which isn’t new.)

Nostalgic References Wish

New 25 Dec 2019 Asked by jeremewhy 37 Comments

I'd really like to see more references to old stuff (the Old Fogey that I am). I like that Magic hasn't forgotten it's old stories and appreciate that things keep getting made for the old players like myself.


Luckily, some of the people that make Magic are also Old Fogeys.

Old Fogey Classification

New 11 Apr 2018 Asked by exarchofsechrima 40 Comments

Can you confirm why Old Fogey doesn't have the Elder subtype? I believe he's the prime example of the Elder Dinosaur.


It didn’t exist at the time I believe.

Elder Dinosaur Status

New 30 Oct 2017 Asked by electricgiga 35 Comments

is Old Fogey an Elder Dinosaur or just an old Dinosaur?


Just old.

Echo Cost Mechanic

New 14 Dec 2016 Asked by himetic88 25 Comments

Un-rules question: do you actually ever pay old fogey's echo cost? From the remind text on echo cards, it seems like you would not (since it's phased out for the turn you'd normally pay it).


It’s explained in detail in the Unhinged FAQ:http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=magic%2Ffaq%2Funhinged

Old Fogey's Type

New 01 Jul 2016 Asked by nocturnaltherapist 23 Comments

On Gatherer, Old Fogey has his typing as "Summon - Dinosaur". Does that count as a card type for things like delirium and such or is he still counted as a creature?


He’s a creature. Un-cards have never gotten errata on Gatherer.

Dinosaur Type Possibility

New 15 May 2016 Asked by skalastics-deactivated20171025 248 Comments

Hey Mark! Just graduated today with a B.S. In geology/paleontology. Any chance we will see the dinosaur creature type (old fogey) outside of silver border? Or is it too "real world" and you guys would rather use things like lizard beast and bird lizard?


Thumbs up or down for creature type “Dinosaur”.

Tribal in Silver Border?

New 20 Apr 2016 Asked by flavoracle 36 Comments

Could the card type Tribal ever be used in silver border similar to the way Old Fogey used retired mechanics in Unhinged?


Silver border is allowed to break rules. That said, it’s a longshot. Also, we have to convince the Powers That Be to make a third Un-set.

Old Fogey Rarity

New 21 Mar 2016 Asked by ccgnick 38 Comments

Why did Old Fogey get a rare expansion symbol? Shouldn't he have had a plain black one, or none at all, if he pined for a time where there was little information on cards, and they had no collector's number?


It wasn’t Old Fogey’s choice.

Bands With Others Critique

New 27 Jan 2016 Asked by crypsys-deactivated20190627 24 Comments

I did some reading today. Only three creatures have "bands with other", and one of them is Old Fogey. Otherwise, an uncommon cycle from Legends gives legends "bands with other legends". This is actually a very cool innovation since legends and multicolor cards overlapped entirely at the time, so the land cycle was an interesting way to make two new mechanics (legends and multicolor) more interesting and relevant. Banding's gone, but there's something to be said for the design decisions there.


I consider bands with others to be the worst named mechanic ever made. Duh. Duh. Duh!

Plainswalker Trivia

New 31 Dec 2015 Asked by cammackattack 157 Comments

The day has come bday trivia. Trivia on 5 color plainswalker or my commander child of alara.


Here’s some five color plainswalking trivia.  There are actually cards in every color (and artifact and multicolor) that can have or grant plainswalk:White Aysen Highway (Homelands)Concerted Effort (Ravnica) - must have other plainswalkerGraceful Antelope (Odyssey)Great Wall (Legends)Righteous Avengers (Legends)Blue (okay, other than Greater Morphing, Illusionary Presence or Traveler’s Cloak, you have to already have a land walker to pull this off)Crystal Spray (Invasion)Greater Morphling (Unhinged)Illusionary Presence (Ice Age)Magical Hack (Alpha)Mind Bend (Mirage)Spectral Shift (Fifth Dawn)Trait Doctoring (Dragon’s Maze)Traveler’s Cloak (Invasion)While of Vorrath (Tempest)BlackCairn Wanderer (Lorwyn) - ,must have plainswalker in graveGiant Slug (Legends)RedBarbarian Guides (Ice Age) - can grant snow-covered plainswalkBeggars Arsonists (Shadowmoor)GreenMagnigoth Treefolk (Planeshift) - must have PlainsOld Fogey (Unhinged)Zodiac Rooster (Portal: Three Kingdoms)ArtifactDeath-Mask Duplicate (Darksteel) - must exile plainswalkerExcavator (Tempest) - must sacrifice PlainsMulticolorLord Magnus (Legends) - Green/WhiteThis is the most I’ve ever written about plainswalk on Blogatog. : )Happy Birthday!

Old Fogey Trivia

New 25 Dec 2014 Asked by vacuumsalesman-blog1 28 Comments

My grandpa was born on Christmas :) any trivia on Old Fogey?


Old Fogey was created by Mark Gottlieb (along with Blast from the Past). Those two cards inspired the “Mix and Match” cards in Future Sight. They are also the only two cards in Unhinged that use the old card frame and the goblin riding the Time Machine can be seen in the art of both. Happy Birthday Grandpa!


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