Slaughter

Slaughter Games Color Pie

New 15 Jan 2024 Asked by namagem1 53 Comments

Hey mark, I'm in an argument with a friend. My friend says that Slaughter Games is a color pie break because it shouldn't be red, because it doesn't need red to do anything it does, since black gets surgical extraction, and black can get "can't be countered" if it needs to (eg: thought distortion.) I'm arguing that that isn't how the color pie works, a card is in pie if all its effects fit in its colors, that a card having too many colors isn't a break. Who's correct?


You’re correct, but there’s a little nuance to it. First, a two-color card is allowed if one of the two colors can do the effect. That’s not considered a color pie break. There some aesthetic reasons we don’t do it too often, but it’s allowed colorpiewise.Second, “can’t be countered” is primary in red and tertiary in black. Black really isn’t supposed to be doing it often, and on a two-color card, tertiary abilities aren’t supposed to be used. That means the “can’t be countered” is coming from red.

0-drop Instants Future

New 25 Jan 2023 Asked by youknowdatboi 33 Comments

If/When we see more 0-drop instants like Slaughter Pact?


If. The Pacts were a bit contentious.

White's Sacrifice Mechanic

New 16 Jul 2021 Asked by hedronalignment 36 Comments

RE: White Sacrifice. White has several cards that can make a player sacrifice an attacking creature, and a couple boardwipes have been released that make players sacrifice creatures conditionally. Are Promise of Loyalty, Single Combat, Slaughter the Strong, and Tragic Arrogance bends or breaks?


White does have a little sacrifice, but all players sacrifice all their creatures feels black not white.

Sacrifice Mechanic Nuance

New 19 Jan 2019 Asked by blaze-1013 43 Comments

"White normslly doesn’t force players to sacrifice their creatures. Black usually does that." White actually has a card in standard that makes players sacrifice creatures, Slaughter the Strong.


Technically correct, but that’s much more of a Wrath of God variant.

Devoid in Commander

New 07 Sep 2015 Asked by eliza-who-smiles-at-death 23 Comments

How do the devoid cards work with commander? Can I use forerunner of slaughter in my Ulamog deck?


I’ve been told that for color identity of Devoid cards in Commander you look at the colors in the mana cost. I assume it’s how Ghostfire has always worked.

Color Alignment

New 09 Jul 2014 Asked by mistershinyobject 12 Comments

Is Look at me, I'm the DCI in color for white? It reminds me a lot of slaughter games and the like, but it is also like nevermore and them.


White gets pre-emptive countering.

Booster Box Gratitude

New 11 Feb 2014 Asked by mtgflyheight 69 Comments

Thanks for personally packaging my Born of the Gods booster box. Champion of Stray Souls; Chromanticore; FOIL Chromanticore; Mogis, God of Slaughter; Xenagos, God of Revels; and DOUBLE KIORA, THE CRASHING WAVE!!! I am a very happy player right now. =D


You’re welcome. I was able to package it on my way home last month. : )

Card Ban Comparison

New 17 Jan 2014 Asked by crypsys-deactivated20190627 9 Comments

Don't we already have Look At Me I'm The DCI in the form of Extirpate, Surgical Extraction and Slaughter Games?


Once again, Look at Me, I’m the DCI bans the card for the match. And yes, those cards are close for the effect for the game.

Slaughter Games Template

New 22 Dec 2012 Asked by undiscoveredparadiselost 9 Comments

Regarding Slaughter Games-like cards, how about "Name a card other than a basic land?"


We obviously have a template if we need it. Philosophically, I think we don’t like cards such as Slaughter Games to be going after mana resources. Stop the threat not the mana.

Non-Basic Land Targeting Issue

New 21 Dec 2012 Asked by odysseyblockfan 8 Comments

Why not just put "target non-basic land" on cards like slaughter games, non-basic has been used for years on wasteland and ghost quarter, so if you put it on slaughter games it can now be a awnser for all kinds of things like cavern of souls or valakut


Do you mean any card whatsoever but a basic land or a land but only one that’s non-basic? See the ambiguity?

Nonbasic vs Nonland

New 20 Dec 2012 Asked by eyeball-frog 11 Comments

For cards like Slaughter Games, could you replace "nonland card" with "nonbasic card"? It seems to me that the "nonland" part is really only there to prevent silly things like ripping all the mountains out of a mono-red deck.


The term “nonbasic card” is not as clear as you might think.

Super-Haste Mechanic Explored

New 10 Dec 2012 Asked by ceci-nest-pas-une-nom-deactivat 6 Comments

Where is Super-Haste on the black bordered scale?


We already did a cycle of cards based on Rocket-Powered Turbo Slug - the five Pacts (Invention Pact, Pact of Negation, Slaughter Pact, Pact of the Titan & Summoner’s Pact) from Future Sight.

Pacts Reception

New 16 Nov 2012 Asked by soulflame-blog 7 Comments

How well were the Pacts (Slaughter Pact) etc received?


Mixed. People liked the power of casting spells for free but hated losing because they forgot to pay.

Not Jackie Chan Challenge

New 17 Oct 2012 Asked by doopboopdoop 60 Comments

Maro quick! Name 5 cards that aren't Jackie Chan!


Slaughter Games Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius Vraska the Unseen Growing Ranks and Jackie Chan. Damn it!

Slaughter Games Design

New 12 Oct 2012 Asked by mediocreman5-blog-blog 6 Comments

What about Slaughter Games (other than the name and mana cost) is red? I love the card, and pretty much any kind of lobotomy effect for that matter, but those effects have always been dimir-colored. It feels like it was made as a Dimir card, then design decided they weren't doing the uncounterable cycle in Gatecrash and just slapped a Rakdos name and mana cost on it with no consideration for flavor or color pie. What gives?


The “can’t be countered” is the red part.


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