So Outlaw is a grouping (Warlocks, Pirates, Rogues, Merceneries, Assassins), along with Party (Wizard, Rogue, Cleric, Warrior)If/When do we get Sea Monsters for Kraken, Leviathan, Octopus, Serpents as a grouping?

If, but small if.

I love batching! The recent Outlaw batch was fantastic flavor, and it got me thinking about something I’ve wondered for a while. Would it be possible to have a “sea creatures” or “sea monsters” batch? We see cards on occasion that care about various sea-related types, like Leviathans, Krakens, and Octopi, but there’s never been exactly a fixed or comprehensive list due to space. Would creating a batch for those types that could include a wider range of types such as crabs, fish, merfolk, homarids, (clamfolk?), and more be possible?

Our internal rule is to limit batches to five, and the sweet spot is three.

So to continue with Signature racesWhite - AngelsBlue - Wizards/Krakens/FaeriesBlack - DemonsRed - DragonsGreen - Hydras/Elementals/Dinosaurs?

The iconic creatures:White - AngelBlue - SphinxBlack - DemonRed - DragonGreen - Hydra

While I understand many people enjoy the KLOS batching, I appreciated the opportunity to build decks around commanders that cared about Serpents and Krakens specifically. May I request similar cards for Leviathans and Ocotopodes, please?

The more we subdivide things up the harder it becomes to make enough cards to support deck strategies. That doesn’t mean it won’t happen, but it’s a limiting factor.

"In Hindu mythology, Rakshasas are not Cats. We’re lining up the creature types to properly capture the creature." Can we expect new Krakens to no longer appear in Theros? It is also mythologically incorrect, as they are from Norse not Greek mythology.

The word Kraken is from Norse mythology, but sea monsters are from Greek mythology. Kraken is just the word we use for all sea monsters despite the world.

I would like to second Hydra feeling less iconic, and would even say the same for Sphinx. Hydras play well in green, but flavorwise they feel like Dragon's cousin. With Sphinx, the knowledge theme works, but it feels like the 4th flying iconic. My picks would be kraken/serpent and treefolk/elemental.

We tried all those for blue and green and neither did as well as Sphinx or Hydra.

Hello Mark, It is my birthday and I wanted to thank you for a) the typal coupling of serpents, octopuses, leviathans and krakens becoming a recurring theme. It’s led to one of my favorite, most effective decks (and an EDH deck that’s, well, getting there). And b) switching from tribal to typal, even if primarily internally. It’s very cool of you all to take that into consideration. I hope you have a good day. ^_^

I will. Happy Birthday!

is there a reason why Nezehal, Primal Tide isn't a leviathan? I mean, it's a giant sea monster. which makes me curious,how do you go about defining Leviathan from Kraken and Kraken from octopus?

It’s a feel thing. There’s definitely some subjectivity.

Hi Mark, In regards to the batching question; could we hope to see batching of creature types according their phylum? Mollusca batching for example could include octopus, squid, kraken, slugs and clamfolk. That would be really neat!

Not off the table.

Would you ever consider a combined creature type? For example using the creature type "Sea-Monster", and having rules text that states Sea-Monster is all of the following: Kraken, Leviathan, Octopus, and Serpent. This would make cards like Runo easier to read, and if a new creature type comes out, it would be easy to add it to the list.

When we use batching the card still has to state what the batch covers in reminder text. I’m skeptical we’d use a batch on the card type line.