Tithe

Funny Gameplay Moment

New 25 May 2024 Asked by rclijsters 12 Comments

Happy birthday, Mark. My story just happened a few weeks ago. I convinced some friends to play PleasantKenobi’s party-in-a-box. I’ve put the power9 in as proxies. So, we start and player 3 casts pearl mox on his first turn. No land drop yet. Player 1 says: I’ve got a response. P3: oh? P1: yeah. Mana tithe. Do you pay 1? Now, the disbelief on his face was hilarious. He looks at his board to tap his land, only to realize he hadn’t dropped his land yet. The rest of us start laughing. He starts negotiating. P3: come on, i’ve never played a mox before. Please, don’t. P1 just deadpanned : do you pay the one? Nothing but laughter and heckling the next 10 minutes before we let P3 proceed to his land drop and finish his turn. But he did win the game in the end.


: )

Smothering Tithe Break?

New 13 Nov 2023 Asked by casofsas 40 Comments

If smothering tithe is a break then is hullbreecher also a break?


We don’t want blue doing too much treasure making (Ixalan got too much), but blue gets a little. It has a small amount of access to other color mana that white doesn’t (such as changing basic land types).

Smothering Tithe Break

New 12 Nov 2023 Asked by wonderfulwitchwillow 50 Comments

If red and green are meant to be the best at making treasure tokens, does that make smothering tithe a bend or break?


It’s a break.

Removing Poison

New 12 Oct 2023 Asked by andalon-historian 27 Comments

You've said before that Reprieve and Mana Tithe have been in-color for White for over a decade, but they just didn't get used by design teams. Is it accurate to say that Leeches is still technically in-color for White, but will never be used by a design team again? Or is removing poison counters simply a break in all colors now.


Removing poison is now not in any color.

Reprints in New Sets

New 11 Oct 2023 Asked by honor-basquiat 52 Comments

Hey Mark,

Fairly recently, on one of your podcasts you were talking about when designing new sets how important it is to generate hype and excitement among the audience with new mechanics/cards/ideas. To me, it feels like in many of the recent sets with bonus sheets, reprints of 10+ year old cards that many enfranchised players have already played with or against are the aspects of the sets that are causing the most enthusiasm. Similarly, these cards often strongly influence Limited games to the point where games are won or lost because of old cards rather than new designs.To me it feels kind of underwhelming that the most powerful cards I can encounter in a draft or collector booster for a brand new Premier set aren't new cards but instead old staples (i.e. think Smothering Tithe and Rhystic Study in Wilds of Eldraine).

Reprints are important and players enjoy them, especially veteran players, but I do feel they take away the spotlight and attention when it comes to new premier sets.

Magic has tons of ways to reprint highly sought after cards (i.e. Secret Lairs, "The List", Reprint exclusive Masters sets, Commander pre-constructed decks) so why has there been an increased proliferation of lots of highly sought after reprints in new premier sets?


It has proven to be the means players enjoy the most. You get the reprints in the sets you’re already purchasing instead of having to buy other products specifically for the reprints.

Prelease Enjoyment

New 04 Sep 2023 Asked by blazinjsin 23 Comments

WOE prerelease was great. The roles and adventures were great, and I think this is my favorite bonus sheet so far. My Rhystic Study against my opponent's Smothering Tithe, and the guy next to me played Forced Fruition lol


Glad you enjoyed it.

Reprint Timing

New 17 Aug 2023 Asked by kasim18-blog 41 Comments

is there a particular reason you chose to put things like Smothering Tithe and Doubling Season into a Masters set (especially at mythic just days before showing that they would be in a different set? I noticed that with Concordaant Crossroads as well, a major reprint right after a Secret Lair. It feels like there would have been lots of other cards for one slot or the other. A card gets reprinted for the first time in a long time, then another immediately after. Any special reason for the trend?


A lot of balls are getting juggled, and their release dates can often change mid-development.

Counterspell Color Allocation

New 14 Jun 2023 Asked by noswadee 48 Comments

It had occurred to me that counters and soft counters are singularly in blue (rare exceptions like mana tithe). Maybe this has been discussed before but is there a reason behind this? Is it the polarization behind counters? Philosophy? Is there any mechanic in another color that that is pretty much exclusively in that color? If you or someone has ever talked about whether white's color pie should white have access to soft counters (primary/secondary/tertiary), I'd love a link!


We’ve decided we want to keep counterspells pretty contained to one color as they are very polarizing to the players.

Smothering Tithe Revision

New 13 Jun 2023 Asked by j-waffles 52 Comments

You’ve said before that smothering tithe was a mistake and a pie break. If it didn’t trigger on the regular draw for turn, and only extra draws, would that be more in line with white’s ramp philosophy?


White’s taxing has to be a real choice that players can make, not something that gives the illusion of choice, but almost never gets paid.

Smothering Tithe Origin

New 28 Mar 2023 Asked by szwanger 32 Comments

Does Smothering Tithe predate the Council of Colors?


I believe so.

Smothering Tithe Origins

New 28 Mar 2023 Asked by dolbuzalo 58 Comments

If Smothering Tithe wasn't in white's part of the pie when it was printed, how did it get printed?


I was just one man! It’s why we started the Council of Colors, to stop things slipping through.

Smothering Tithe Tokens

New 28 Mar 2023 Asked by mysticleviathan 29 Comments

Would smothering tithe be as big of an issue if the tokens it created produced exclusively whife or colorless mana?


It solves the color washing issue, but not the ramp issue.

Smothering Tithe in Pie

New 27 Mar 2023 Asked by dabudder 73 Comments

Is smothering tithe still in white’s colour pie?


It wasn’t in white’s color pie when it was printed. And it still isn’t today.White is allowed limited amount of treasure as a means of taxing, but only if the taxed player has a true expectation of being able to buy out of it. Smothering Tithe is both too much taxing and unreasonable that the player can choose to continually paying the tax.

Favorite White Color Break

New 24 Oct 2022 Asked by koda-13 69 Comments

What is your favorite White color break? (You can say Mana Tithe if u want, that's my favorite too)


I don’t have favorite breaks, as breaks shouldn’t have happened. It’s like asking which crack in my windshield is my favorite.

Treasures Mechanic Impact on Commander

New 10 Apr 2022 Asked by kriosuranous 55 Comments

I overall like treasures, but i feel like they are warping commander because three of the most overpowered cards of all time for the format (smothering tithe, Dockside Extortionist, and hullbreacher) all generate treasure, which leads to the mechanic being warping.


Ah, eternal formats, where mistakes live forever. : )

Addressing Treasure Mechanic

New 10 Apr 2022 Asked by blaze-1013 66 Comments

Since people are talking treasure and commander, the issue isn't treasures as a mechanic rather the power level of individual cards. Dockside Extortionist and Smothering Tithe just make a lot of treasure and give huge advantages for little work. Brass' Bounty meanwhile has been legal for ages and I don't think people have any real negative feelings for it. The ability to continuously make multiple a turn or a lot for little work is where treasures start to become an issue.


Do others agree with this contention?

Smothering Tithe: Bend or Break

New 08 Nov 2021 Asked by mooseontheloose2 34 Comments

"It can with the following restriction. White should not be able to reliably generate effects that are not within its color pie. So, white taxing something that would happen infrequently and unpredictably, could play around with non-white effects, but one that is very exacting in its taxing, meaning it would happen often and predictably, could not."Given that idea, and that idea as a whole, would you consider Smothering Tithe a bend or a break?


I’ll call it a strong bend that we shouldn’t have made.

Questioning White’s Mana Generation

New 19 Oct 2021 Asked by sonofabeholder 32 Comments

“White isn't supposed to be good at generating other colors of mana.”Mark, does this mean that Smothering Tithe and Monologue Tax (and the other white treasure generating cards from Strixhaven) are breaks or bends now?


They’re bends.

White Counterspells Request

New 18 Oct 2021 Asked by mertag770 43 Comments

I'd like to request more white counterspells! I really enjoy playing with Mana Tithe and Lapse of Certainty


Here’s the current state of white taxing and delaying counterspells. They’re in color pie, but play design isn’t currently interested in making them.

Taxing and Treasure Generation

New 18 Oct 2021 Asked by petruscaex 29 Comments

You said Smothering Tithe and Monologue Tax aren't in White slice of the color pie, but they're both taxing cards which is something in-pie for White. Does that makes the treasure generation a small bend in both cards?


I said treasure generation isn’t particularly a white thing. Taxing very much is a white thing.


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