Vintage

Eternal Formats Existence

New 20 Jul 2024 Asked by thimofranke 8 Comments

Maybe it's a bit of a reductionist view, but at a larger timeframe, eternal formats don't really exist. They thrive for a time and are then replaced by something else. Legacy replaced Vintage, Modern replaced Legacy, one day Pioneer will replace Modern and after that, new formats will be born. Yes, there are still Vintage and Legacy players, but at a macro scale, the percentage of players is shrinking.
I think it is very okay to accept this as a fact of the game.


The word “eternal” is a poor choice as we use “eternal” to mean formats with access to (mostly) all the cards. Vintage, Legacy, and Commander are all eternal formats. So eternal formats do exist. : )But your larger point of how Magic keeps shifting where it focuses its formats is true.

Suggestion for Third Cube

New 19 Jul 2024 Asked by a-person-who-asks-questions 12 Comments

Hi Mark! My play group is looking to add a third cube to our weekly rotation. We already have a Vintage Cube and a Pauper Cube everyone enjoys. What do you suggest as a third cube with great replayability?


Un-cube with an Unstable base. : )

Power Level Adjustment in Sets

New 19 Jun 2024 Asked by justforaskingmaro 5 Comments

Set B "obsoletes" set A is a strong word, but let's focus a moment on pioneer, not very old vintage cards. I have a database of "top playables" in pioneer, restarted after every banning. Cards get into list based on certain number of appearances in goldfish's tournament winners, but criteria is equal to all cards. 9 OG Theros cards are on the list, 5 KTK cards. 4 RTR cards (+ shocks) 21 MKM cards are. 20 LCI cards. 13 OTJ. New sets have vastly more cards in list, thus are stronger.


The switch for a Standard-focus to an Eternal-focus forced us to up the overall power level of premier sets in Throne of Eldraine, so yes, Throne of Eldraine and sets after do have an overall high power level. That wasn’t set by set creep though, but a conscious one-time adjustment.

Modern Power Creep

New 23 May 2024 Asked by theactormarkwilliams-blog 6 Comments

Re:Re:Powercreep - outside of vintage cube, most players will never play with cards like tinker, black lotus and the moxen. If you look at e.g. the modern card pool, I don't see how you argue powercreep isn't happening - virtually all of the most played non-land cards were printed in the last 3-4 years.


Because all the most powerful early cards are banned?

Commander-Only Cards Issue

New 14 May 2024 Asked by sjk9000 8 Comments

Can you elaborate on why you can't make commander-only cards? While Wizards doesn't have explicit control over Commander legality, it seems like you ought to have de facto control by virtue of the fact that you can dictate legality for most non-commander formats.If, for example, you had pre-emptively banned sticker cards from Legacy and Vintage, the end result would be that the cards would be only legal in Commander and Limited. Is there a reason you don't consider doing something like that a viable option?


We don’t like pre-banning cards. It also just adds a lot of card names to the banned list which makes it harder to process.Commander is in an odd place as there’s a separate group that determines legality. We’re trying to not overstep our bounds.

Unfinity Card Legality

New 14 May 2024 Asked by theverdantchef 2 Comments

Regarding sticker/attraction: wouldn't it have been best to keep all the cards from Unfinity silver border/acorn so they don't affect legacy/vintage/pauper and allow the Commander rules committee to decide which if any of these cards to become legal in their format? Or would that have put an undue burden on that rules committee to go through all the cards and figure out which ones would be acceptable and which are not?


If they were silver border they wouldn’t be playable. That rule already existed.

Banning Philosophies

New 14 May 2024 Asked by sobek16 4 Comments

Can’t Wizards automatically ban cards in legacy, vintage, pauper, etc. as a work around to have the cards not effect tournament formats but be legal in Commander?


It’s not something we normally do. We ban cards when they cause a problem, not because they potentially could.

Unfinity Cards Legality

New 13 May 2024 Asked by su92 4 Comments

I saw that Legacy and Vintage banned sticker and attraction cards. While I agree that the logistical reality of tournaments is not ideal, I just want to express that I really liked making (some) Un-set cards legal including very off-the-beat mechanics, and I hope that remains a possibility for the future (probably not with extra decks though). And I hope other Unfinity cards (Embiggen, Saw in Half, etc.) are not retroactively made illegal as well.


There are no current plans to ban any of the non-sticker/Attraction eternal-legal Unfinity cards.

MTGO and Clocknapper

New 16 Apr 2024 Asked by lrddphn 25 Comments

Do you think MTGO could handle Clocknapper? (Unstable card that lets you steal one part of your opponents turn). It's a paper Vintage Cube powerhouse that I think deserves a spot in the MTGO cube.


MTGO usually requires the cards to work within the rules which Clocknapper does not.

Power 9 Implications

New 09 Apr 2024 Asked by jjarnone-blog 30 Comments

What do you think magic would look like now if it was decided early on that cards of a caliber of the power 9 were an acceptable to continue printing.


It would look like a high-end Vintage game.

Addressing Power Creep

New 30 Mar 2024 Asked by starlightofpenguins 31 Comments

When LSV recently did a top 50 vintage cube list, the #11 slot was Minsc and Boo, the first card on the list not from Alpha. Vintage cube red has gone from being one drop based to 3 and 4 drop based - because the power level of modern 3 and 4 cost cards is so high. Jace the Mind Sculptor is now an upper medium power planeswalker, not the ceiling. Is this not power creep?


Power creep isn’t about us making individually strong cards. It’s us making whole sets where the overall power level is higher than all the sets that came before it.

UB Cards Concern

New 23 Mar 2024 Asked by izzipurrito 94 Comments

"There are many things in Magic that players don’t like, yet encounter in other people’s decks. For example, there are many players who don’t like horror imagery. There are ones than dislike things that pull too far away from fantasy. There are ones that don’t like when cards get too cutesy."Right, but I would argue those still contain Magic IP and were created to be a part of the Magic the Gathering brand. Someone who works for Magic the Gathering had to be creative and design these assets.In my previous ask I said Bowmasters and The One Ring are flavor fails just like all other UB cards, but flavor wise, they are high fantasy, like Magic. So those would get a pass alongside D&D since they're so close in aesthetic.But Transformers, My Little Pony, Doctor Who, Fallout, and Marvel, are nothing like Magic, they feel out of place and really tacky. If they must exist, as a competitive player, I would like for them to only legal in Commander. (And only Commander, they wouldn't be legal in Legacy, Vintage, etc)


You seem to be missing my core point. You’re prioritizing the line you draw over the lines other people draw.

Format Staples Rotation

New 16 Mar 2024 Asked by yuleooze 47 Comments

In the interest of Wotc playing attention to non-commander formats, has there ever been talk of taking away format staples for a brief period of time? As long its communucated effectively that the cards are not banned forever I'd like to see what legacy looks like without Daze for like 3 months, or modern without Force of Negation for a season or so. I like that vintage saw the unrestriction of Ponder as a way to shake up the format, and want that for other formats as well.


I have pitched the idea of a “penalty box” where cards get sidelined for a specific amount of time, but it’s never gained traction.

Baldur's Gate Dungeon Event

New 08 Mar 2024 Asked by thasgar 33 Comments

Is the Baldur's Gate Wilderness dungeon only for the event coming in May, or is it entering the comprehensive rules and Commander/Legacy/Vintage? I'm hearing people online say it will be, but not seeing anything official about it.


It’s just for the event, but if people enjoy it and want to casually use it, there’s nothing we can do to stop it. : )

Unique Deck Limits

New 02 Feb 2024 Asked by thunderweb 24 Comments

If/when: cards like Seven Dwarves ("a deck can have up to N cards named X"), but N is fewer than 4


If. It’s a nerf in non-singleton formats , and we tend to avoid restricting things outside of Vintage.

Reserved List Art Cards

New 20 Jan 2024 Asked by su92 19 Comments

There are many reserved list cards that got new illustrations in Magic Arena, Magic Online or promotional stuff (like the giant cards given in Vintage and Legacy Championships). Is it possible we get art cards of those illustrations in paper?


It’s hard to do as we’re not allowed to print Reserved List cards in paper, regardless of what art it uses.

Deckbuilding Restrictions

New 04 Oct 2023 Asked by splittheeadam 30 Comments

Hi Mark! Magic has had cards that allow players to ignore the 4x (or 1x in Commander) limit on card copies in deckbuilding, and Magic has had post-printing restrictions on how many of a certain card you can take in your deck within specific formats. If or when: a card that is printed with the restriction of only being able to include one (or some other number less than the usual 4) of it in your deck.


The reason we avoid doing restricted lists in anything but Vintage is it raises the variance e higher than we like. So I’m skeptical we’ll do that.

Power Lunch Viability

New 15 Sep 2023 Asked by annorax 31 Comments

Could Power Lunch ever happen with the proviso that it's legal in Vintage only, or alternatively, only legal in a format created specifically for it (and its hopeful sequels) based on the Vintage card pool?


My guess is you’re not a vintage player. It would blow the format apart.

Legacy/Vintage Horizons

New 07 Sep 2023 Asked by rottinghellkite 24 Comments

Is it possible we could one day see a Legacy/Vintage Horizons product?


The audience for Legacy/Vintage sadly isn’t big enough to warrant such a product (in tabletop, at least).

Restricting The One Ring

New 14 Aug 2023 Asked by stankmaster5000 38 Comments

Hey Mark, is it possible for a card like The One Ring to be changed to "limit one per deck and sideboard." I think it would still see play and stop the multiple rings turn after turn. The card is fun, but being on the other side of 2-3 rings in a row is not.


The only format we restrict cards in is Vintage. (And I guess it’s the baseline for Commander.) Restricting cards greatly increases variance which we try not to do with formats that have comeptitive tournament play.


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