Vigor

Pitch Mechanics Future

New 08 Jul 2023 Asked by pantswithoutlegholes 32 Comments

the printing of the pitch elementals in modern horizons 2 (fury, solitude, etc.) and the new forces (negation, vigor, etc) indicate that this alternate cost is not something relegated to magic's past. but while we've seen the specific restrictions change (X cost for shoals, 2 cards in coldsnap, etc.) the cards exiled always need to share a color. could we see pitch cards that need a card of a second color to be exiled? or a specific card type? or multicolored cards that can pitch either color?


The challenge is not breaking the color pie. If a card does a blue effect, for example, you have to have a payment that ensures you’re playing blue.

Cost Mechanics

New 10 Feb 2023 Asked by j-waffles 29 Comments

“Costs have to be something you can pay yourself” invigorate would like to have a word with you mark


You give the opponent life in place of paying the mana cost, which, I believe, means you’re not technically paying a cost. Again, I’m not saying we can’t template giving your opponent a resource; it’s just not written as a cost.

Doubling Season Effect

New 20 Jun 2022 Asked by elmarcodepico 36 Comments

Follow-up question on B.O.B. - Does their static ability count as an "effect" for the purposes of Doubling Season? With Doubling Season in play, I'd think that activating +1 would create 2 beebles, which would add another loyalty, which would create 2 more beebles, which would add 2 more loyalty, which would create 4 more beebles, etc. Or does the doubling only apply once? Thanks!


From the Unsanctioned FAQ: Say I have a card that doubles my token production, like Doubling Season. What happens?Doubling Season (and a few similar cards) applies “if an effect would create one or more tokens,” so it will double the initial shipment of Beebles. You’ll create eight of them as B.O.B. enters the battlefield. However, it won’t double the one created because you activate the first loyalty ability. That Beeble is created because of a cost, not an effect.However, some more recent cards like Primal Vigor don’t specify “effects” and will double any and all Beeble births.

White's Token Creation Potential

New 25 Dec 2020 Asked by sailorforce 46 Comments

May I request more cards that increase token production, especially in white? Also, please more reprints of Doubling Season, Parallel Lives, Primal Vigor, and Annointed Procession?


I agree white should be the best at small token creation.

Reprints and Modern Impact

New 03 Oct 2014 Asked by thegraylemon 16 Comments

Does the existence of modern ever stop something from being reprinted in standard? For instance, I doubt Invigorate would be all that great in standard but it might push modern infect over the top.


It’s something development thinks about but if it was something Standard really needed, I think development would use it and then see if it truly causes a problem in Modern. If it did, there are ways to address it.

Font of Vigor Cost

New 20 May 2014 Asked by comiclord 16 Comments

I know you aren't a developer, but how is it that Font of Vigor is more expensive to play and activate than Font of Fertility when MtG history has clearly shown ramp is far more powerful than life gain?


Every card does not have to be at the apex of the power level of its mechanic.

Doubling Cards

New 16 Dec 2013 Asked by krymsinviking 7 Comments

What about Gisela, Blade of Goldnight in FtV: Doubling. She is my favorite doubler. Also, no love for primal vigor? Is it because its new?


I didn’t name all the doubling cards just the ones I thought of. I’ve been at it for a while. There’s more. : )

Primal Vigor Clarification

New 16 Oct 2013 Asked by philosophile42 8 Comments

Maro can you make sure that people know that primal vigor only doubles two things, +1/+1 counters on creatures and token creatures? It doesn't affect charge counters loyalty counters, poison counters -1/-1 counters... Not even +1/2/+1/2 counters from little girls.


If the +½ / +½ counter is actually half a +1/+1 counter, which it is, then it does get doubled.

Comparing Cards

New 16 Oct 2013 Asked by dukkhasatva 22 Comments

For me the feel-bad about Primal Vigor is that it's strictly worse than DS but the exact same mana cost. Had it costed 2GG instead or something it would be a cool card.


The fact that is global (not just for you) makes it not strictly worse because there are shenanigans you can do with it you cannot do with Doubling Season. Note I’m not saying it isn’t in most cases weaker, but it allows something the previous card does not.

Mission: Primal Vigor

New 16 Oct 2013 Asked by sofacoin 25 Comments

Mr. Rosewater, your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to get Primal Vigor reprinted in a standard legal set. This message will self destruct in five seconds.


Just to show you how players can be divided…

Little Girl and Primal Vigor

New 15 Oct 2013 Asked by spectrallynx 17 Comments

I like Primal Vigor. But the biggest problem with it is that it doesn't help with scavenging Little Girls.


Fine, just Rite of Replication the Little Girl. : )

Standard Doubling Season

New 15 Oct 2013 Asked by quincognito 12 Comments

Any chance we'll see an actual fixed Doubling Season in an upcoming set (rather than a similar card that serves a completely different purpose like Primal Vigor)?


We just saw Doubling Season in Modern Masters. As for a Standard-legal set? I tried it with Zendikar but development removed it because the card is just too powerful with planeswalkers.

Primal Vigor Role

New 15 Oct 2013 Asked by ili-92 5 Comments

So... It looks like Primal Vigor is a doubling season that synergies with Infect.... While I can't imagine any other (real) card that screams MaRo more than that, is there any particular reason the "you control" clause was left out?


I’m just guessing as I wasn’t involved, but I think they were trying to make it have more of a multiplayer role as it was for a Commander product.

Primal Vigor Feedback

New 15 Oct 2013 Asked by selesnyamage 24 Comments

Mark, it seems like the reveal of Primal Vigor has mostly unfavorable comments towards it. I understand that the idea was that this new version of Doubling Season prevents the whole planeswalker abuse situation, but was there any other reason why you guys decided to give us this card?


The responses I’ve gotten have been overwhelmingly positive. What don’t you like about it?

Understanding NWO

New 15 Oct 2013 Asked by tasteofmtg 13 Comments

I'm a little sad Primal Vigor doesn't follow NWO and gives benefits to everyone. It's a perfect fix for doubling season otherwise.


I think yours understand what New World Order is. It’s a system to make sure common is not overly complex.

Pauper Bannings Reasoning

New 28 Jan 2013 Asked by foam-dome 5 Comments

What encouraged the seemingly abrupt banning of Grapeshot, Empty the Warrens, and Invigorate in Pauper? Did Wizards recently decide that it would be best to reduce the impact of combo on the format? If so, does this mean that Pauper will be undergoing a paradigm shift? Did I ask that last question just so I could find an excuse to use the phrase "paradigm shift?"


The banning team got a lot of input from people playing Pauper as well as looking at the data from Magic Online, one of the places where the format is the most popular. The general feeling, as well as what data crunching showed, is that storm was a little too dominant, so they did what banning teams do, they corrected.


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