How come “wheel fortune but it’s arcane” isn’t allowed because of the RL, but reverberate is?

We technically shouldn’t have made Reverberate. We realized that after we printed it, but as it was done we decided to let it be. One mistake does not allow other mistakes.

Hi, considering what you posted on the "Fork ./. Reverberate" issue (your post id 173202717833 of Apr 22, 2018) how did the "Roc of Kher Ridges ./. Moonveil Regent" happen? I know it's not identical, but even strictly better (a better flyer than a 3/3 for 3R mana without negative effects, like e.g. on Flailing Manticore). In the "spirit of the RL" that should have been caught prior to releasing the Moonveil Regent, right? Cheers.

The Reserved List doesn’t mean we can’t make better cards than cards on the Reserved List. The Fork/Reverberate is about making an almost identical card.

I detest Deafening Silence as someone who likes noncreature spells and spells that copy other spells. Considering many of those copy effects are in Red - e.g. Increasing Vengeance, Fork, Reverberate - which has absolutely no recourse in-color to deal with enchantments (like Deafening Silence), it feels like it majorly hoses those types of fun red cards and is very uninteractive where it has that effect. To balance this with something positive, Fervent Champion is delightful.

Magic shines because it makes a wide variety of threats and a wide variety of answers. One of the downsides of playing a monocolor deck is you are more vulnerable to certain threats as not every color has every answer,

I know you said Reverberate was too close to Fork and thus broken the spirit of RL. Does that mean Reverbereate is now kind of on a virtual RL?

No. What’s done is done.

I know how you feel about Fork vs Reverberate with regard to the Reserve List, but how about Juzam Djinn vs Plague Sliver? Could we see more Plague Sliver-esque attempts at reserved cards?

Those are allowable, but not something we plan to do a lot.

What was the rationale for circumventing the reserved list for FtV: Relics, Powder Keg's MPR printing, and Judge Gift cards (to say nothing of Reverberate)? I'm not complaining, just wondering how much wiggle room we can expect in the future.

We used to make use of a loophole using premium versions of the cards. That went over poorly so we closed the loophole.

Hey - while we're talking about the "spirit of the Reserve List", does printing Reverberate when Fork is on the list break that? Only difference is that Fork makes the spell Red. Kinda feels like a loophole to me (not complaining, by the way)

It’s something we did that crosses a line we no longer cross.

You often talk about how the spirit of the reserved list is just as important to uphold as the letter, which makes sense and I can appreciate it even though I hate the RL. So why, then is Reverberate perfectly okay to print in every core set while Fork is on the list? They're the exact same card with the only difference being the removal of the "the copy is red" clause. It seems like if that's fine to print, other "loophole" cards should be too.

Over the years, R&D tried slowly doing away with the list and as part of that pushed the line in a few places. Once it became clear the list was staying, we stopped doing that, but we’ve allowed ourselves to keep the cards we made along the way. Essentially, those cards got grandfathered in.

As far as mechanics go, as a red mage, I love Fork/Reverberate. Can I hope to see more effects in that line as a recurring red thing? It just fits so well (IMHO - I yield to your Color Pie Culinary Arts).

We do them on regularity. Do you want them done even more often?

If Fork is on the reserved list, why is Reverberate okay? I know they're not exactly the same but it seems like basically a functional reprint.

It was created at a time when we were a little looser with how we handled the Reserve List. As it’s a done deal, we use it, but I don’t feel like we’re going to be doing that in present day.