Nalathni Dragon

Nalathni Dragon Rarity

New 17 Apr 2024 Asked by like-winter-we-are-cruel 39 Comments

Weird question. I've been collecting the card "Nalathni Dragon" for years now, and I've got several hundred of them. My friend jokingly said I must have a majority by now, and that made me wonder, how many Nalathni Dragons _are_ there? They were meant as a con promo, so presumably they were a fairly limited print. Is that information you have access to and could share, even vaguely?


Remember that there was so much backlash to it being solely a convention promo and it got put into a copy of The Duelist.I have no idea of the print numbers, but The Duelist inclusion raised it a bit.

Concerns Over Limited Availability

New 04 Oct 2020 Asked by reamaday 332 Comments

Focusing on the small differences between Nalathni dragon, nexus of fate, and the secret lair feels like a deliberate splitting of hairs and intentionally ignoring the commonalities which is what is upsetting players: once the window of opportunity to get these cards has passed, it’s going to be incredibly hard to get them. This response feels like the communities concerns are being ignored which makes us more upset and feeling overall gaslit. It doesn’t inspire confidence.


Here’s my problem. My job is about splitting hairs. Chroma was a failed mechanic and Devotion was a hit. The difference between something working and something not can often be tiny executions. I try on this blog to let you see my designer persona which does a lot of nit-picking, but you bring a good point that when the audience is upset, that’s not the persona you need and I apologize for that. You guys are hurting and what you need from me is an acknowledgement of that hurt. You need sympathetic Mark and not designer Mark. One of the by-products of being a face of Magic is I’m a lightning rod for feedback. There’s good and bad to that, but it does mean that I have a unique insight into what is upsetting you all. I just wrote a write-up to share with my bosses to explain what I’ve learned, and I want to thank you all for feeling comfortable enough with me to share your issues. So, I’m sorry so many of you are hurting right now. I’ll stop acting like designer Mark on this topic. It’s just causing more pain and that’s the last thing I want.

Trust Issue Addressal Request

New 04 Oct 2020 Asked by badatcommander 186 Comments

Part of what's going on here is that for a lot of players, the TWD SL seriously damaged our trust in WotC to do what's best for the game. Your part of that is that on 9/16 you said re BAB Promos "We were listening to feedback from the players. The mechanically unique Buy-a-Box cards upset a lot of people." You knew that TWD was coming, and because of that I have lost a lot of trust in you specifically. If you want to earn that trust back, you might start by explaining that post.


I understand how the players can clump Nalathni Dragon and Nexus of Fate and Rick all in the same category, but I need to stress that they were each very different things. Nalathni Dragon required you to travel to Atlanta and buy ticket to a convention that had nothing directly to do with Magic. Nexus of Fate required you to buy a box of draft boosters from your local game store while supplies last, Rick requires you ordering a Magic product online during a certain time period. The first one has nothing to do with Magic while the second two were directly tied to a Magic product. The first and second required you to go to a physical place while the third did not. The first and second were “while supplies last” while the third is print to demand. Each is different, so we have to treat it differently. There is a world where unique Buy-a-Boxes cards are problematic where a direct to sale product is not. Two weeks ago I said “we tried thing X and you communicated that you didn’t like thing X”. Now we’re trying thing Y. Yes, there are similarities, but there are also numerous differences. Maybe you’ll like thing Y. That’s why we’re trying it.I understand you might not like thing Y, but me saying you didn’t like thing X is not me lying about thing Y.

Buy-a-Box vs Nalathni

New 27 Mar 2019 Asked by fireiord 65 Comments

Hey, Mark. I'm listening to your podcast on 20 things that were going to kill Magic, and you say that Nalathni Dragon was a mistake; having a functionally unique card that was a special promo where you didn't have an easy way to obtain it off you weren't there to get one yourself. Do you feel the Buy-a-Box promos are different enough from Nalathni Dragon? If so, why? They seem to me like a functionally unique set of a cards, in some cases super pushed, that most people don't have access to.


The Nalathni Dragon required you show up at an event in Atlanta, Georgia (in the US) to attend an event that at best tangentially connected to Magic. Buy-a-Box requires you to go to your local game store and buy a box of Magic. Those two things are quite different.

Card Availability Compared

New 22 Mar 2018 Asked by maestroquark 57 Comments

How is Firesong and Sunspeaker different than Nalathni Dragon?


One was available for a single weekend at a single event held at one location for an event unrelated to Magic. The other is available at any store that sells Magic for buying Magic product.

Exclusive Promo Policies

New 21 Jul 2017 Asked by lgosvse 68 Comments

Long ago, Wizards of the Coast made Nalathni Dragon, a promo card exclusive to DragonCon. When that turned out to be a horrible idea, they promised never to print exclusive promo cards again. Now, HASCON has come around and we have another convention-exclusive promo card. Wizards has gone back on their promise. Why is it okay for them to do this, yet not okay for them to go back on the Reserved List? What makes one different from the other?


We print unique functional silver-bordered cards not found in boosters. The holiday cards, for example, fall in this group. We aren’t breaking a promise as we said we wouldn’t do it in black border.

Unique Promo Card History

New 19 Jan 2016 Asked by jaxxisr 14 Comments

What was the last mechanically unique promotional card you made in a black border?


Nalathni Dragon given to Dragon Con attendees back in 1994. (We later put it into a Duelist due to the tremendous negative backlash.)

Promo Cards Strategy

New 03 Sep 2015 Asked by onyxfrog 28 Comments

The Zendikar Expeditions promos and the Nalathni Dragon problem. With the SDCC promos, WotC was printing the functionally same cards at the same time in the core set. With Zendikar Expeditions, there is no way to purchase a normal treatment of (most of) these cards from Wizards currently.


I don’t think limiting promotions to cards only in print will lead to good promo cards.

Nalathni Dragon Trivia

New 05 Oct 2014 Asked by megrim25-deactivated20170924 16 Comments

Any trivia on Nalathni Dragon?


It’s the only red card printed with banding. It’s also one of a handful of cards that has never appeared in a booster pack.

Historical Challenges

New 06 Aug 2013 Asked by troy-costisick-blog 12 Comments

In five years when you do the silver anniversary of Magic, perhaps you can amend your "20 things that Almost Killed Magic" to include 5 things that actually almost did like: overprinting Fallen Empires, following up the Chronicles debacle with a set like Homelands, the Over-powered-ness of Urza's block, following up Urza's block with the utter crappiness of Masques block, and Time Spiral's block of overcomplicated mess? I think each of those put the game in more danger than Nalathni Dragon.


The article was more about controversies than things that were actually in danger of killing the game. I just chose an attention-grabbing headline.

Promo Collectability

New 26 Jun 2013 Asked by unknownwarrior33 14 Comments

I think the black-on-black promo Planeswalkers are more akin to the Nalathni Dragon than typical alternate art promos. For one, though you are correct that the card text can be found in booster packs, the art style is something completely different from what Magic has ever seen, making it much more desirable than just having a slightly different illustration. Second, while anyone with a PC and $10 can get one of the Duels promos, it's a very tiny subset of players that can get to SDC.


We want to have collectables but we don’t want it to impact gameplay which these promos do not do but Nalathni Dragon did. We already make all sorts of cool promos with alternate art and frame treatments and many of those are not produced in giant quantities.

Promo Problems Compared

New 26 Jun 2013 Asked by anerdtumblr 27 Comments

The new back on black promos and the Nalathni Dragon problem.


The problem with Nalathni Dragon was that it was a unique card and the only place you could get it was at Dragoncon. The new promos are cards that exist in Magic 2014. The promos are just a neat treatment of the cards not the only place to get them.

Blue-Red Vigilance

New 24 Jun 2013 Asked by su92 14 Comments

How can you have vigilance if you're blue-red? Don't you know you shouldn't justify something by flavor? ;)


I’m the Nalathni Dragon of game designers. : )


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