Zealous Conscripts

Red's Planeswalker Interaction

If red can’t steal planeswalkers, does that make Zealous Conscripts a bend/break?

I forgot to list planeswalkers. It’s not something red does often.

Bend / Break Planeswalkers Red Zealous Conscripts

Planeswalker Control Card

Can i get a maybe on an Act of Treason-like card that can take control of planeswalkers? You have already done this with Zealous Conscripts. When you got to ultimate your opponent's planewalkers it made for good stories.

FYI

Act of Treason Planeswalkers Zealous Conscripts

Stealing Enchantments

"We don’t like the gameplay of red stealing enchantments as it’s too close to destroying them." - So to circle back on Zealous Conscripts, is it being able to steal enchantments a break, or is it just a bend to make a cleaner template than "Steal target non-enchantment permanent"?

It was a bend to make a cleaner template.

Bend / Break Enchantments Game Play Red Templating Zealous Conscripts

Enchantment Control

"red-> gaining control of enchantments until end of turn: No" How can you say this? Are you saying that Zealous Conscripts is a break? If we're back on the red-enchantment discussion again I would've pointed to that card instantly for a completely red non-color-pie-violating way of fairly interacting with them.

We don’t like the gameplay of red stealing enchantments as it’s too close to destroying them. Also, because of auras, temporary stealing of enchantments is a bit wonkier than stealing other permanents.

Auras Bend / Break Colors Enchantments Game Play Permanents Red Zealous Conscripts

Red's Temporary Theft

I don't think red has gotten temporary theft of lands specifically, but it has gotten temporary theft of permanents, which can be lands (Zealous Conscripts, for example)

Fair enough.

Lands Permanents Red Zealous Conscripts

Red Enchantment Theft

Is red unable to temporarily steal enchantments? Is Zealous Conscripts a color pie break?

I believe so.

Color Pie Colors Enchantments Red Zealous Conscripts

Red Stealing Permanents

Red CAN threaten permanents. Unless you consider Zealous Conscripts to be a color pie break now.

I was wrong. Red does occasionally steal permanents.

Color Pie Colors Permanents Red Zealous Conscripts

Red Enchantment Removal

In the same vein as M14 Chandra's +0, could red get more *temporary* enchantment removal ala Zealous Conscripts? What about enchantment hate as an alternative to enchantment destruction? (eg, Aura Barbs or Blood Oath.)

Red is allowed to inflict pain on those having enchantments or otherwise do things to players with enchantments. That’s fully in color.

Aura Barbs Auras Blood Blood Oath Colors Enchantments Red Zealous Conscripts

Creation of Zealous Conscripts

I've been meaning to ask this for a while: who made Zealous Conscripts? Thank them tremendously for them. I view the card not just as a Threaten-effect, but as an in-flavor, in-color-pie way for Red to "remove" enchantments. If stealing that True Conviction for a turn was enough to attack with your creatures and kill the opponent, then it works just the same as a smaller, Red version of Indrik Stomphowler. I'd love to see more cards like this that handle enchantments in Red ways!

That was one of mine. Because of the flickering theme, the set wanted more creatures with “enter the battlefield” triggers and I do like Threatens.

Colors Creatures Enchantments Enter The Battlefield Flavor Indrik Stomphowler Red Triggered Abilities True Conviction Zealous Conscripts

Creature Names Debate

Regarding the change from Grizzly Bears to Runeclaw Bear, you said it shouldn't have been plural. But what about Corpse Traders, Gang of Devils, Geist Trappers, Heirs of Stromkirk, Kessig Malcontents, Marrow Bats, Riders of Gavony, Spectral Gateguards, and Zealous Conscripts? All are very recent creatures with plural names. I understand making the name more magical, but are plural creatures really an issue?

It wasn’t Magic shouldn’t have plural names. It was that a 2/2 should only be a Grizzly Bear not Grizzly Bears. Remember, a well trained human is a 1/1.

Bat Bat Bear Corpse Traders Creatures Devil Gang of Devils Gates Geist Trappers Grizzly Bears Heirs of Stromkirk Human Kessig Marrow Bats Riders of Gavony Runeclaw Bear Spectral Gateguards Zealous Conscripts

Creature Type Discrepancy

You sometimes print red creatures that are obviously soldiers (Zealous Conscripts) or wizards (Rage Thrower) in concept, but end up being warriors and shamans. Why this discrepancy between the art/name and the creature type?

White & Blue - Soldiers & Wizards Red & Green - Warriors & Shamans Black - Can go either way depending on context

Art Black Blue Card Printing Creatures Green Rage Thrower Red Shaman Soldier Warrior White Zealous Conscripts