Modern Horizons 2

Chatterfang's Homeland Uncertainty

New 14 Jul 2024 Asked by noybusiness 6 Comments

I'd like to point out that if Chatterfang, Squirrel General is now from Bloomburrow, that would be a retcon, because his bio in "The New Legends of Modern Horizons 2" mentions him fighting drakes and orcs, which apparently don't exist in Bloomburrow.


I do not know where Chatterfang is from.

Arbound Condor Appreciation

New 11 Jun 2024 Asked by zombsidian 10 Comments

Hats off to whoever designed Arcbound Condor, I liked that in MH2 we had Modular focused around Boros, and now the one Modular card in MH3 is in Black! Also, crazy artifact payoff that I haven't seen anyone talk about. Love the card <3


High fives shall be applied.

Grist Card Excitement

New 21 May 2024 Asked by mythial-blog 4 Comments

I would like to gibe many thanks and dish out high fives to the reveal of Grist, Voracious Larva/Grist, the Plague Swarm in Modern Horizons 3. It was my favourite card from MH2 and I'm happy that it was well received enough that we got another iteration. I'm also looking forward to learning more about the character, so here's hoping we get more Lore accompanying this set!


Glad you’re excited.

Top Sellers Metrics

New 09 Apr 2024 Asked by philippesaner 22 Comments

Would LTR and MH2 still be the top sellers if you went by packs bought rather than dollars spent?


I believe so.

Product Performance Monitoring

New 09 Apr 2024 Asked by notmakingablog71 26 Comments

Do you guys track if certain products within a set do better than others? I.e. if the Lord of the rings commander decks were also the best selling commander precons, or if modern horizons 2 sold the most draft boxes?


We do. We track a lot of things.

Measuring Set Sales

New 09 Apr 2024 Asked by thasgar 25 Comments

When measuring the best selling sets, is it measured by money customers spent, or number of packs sold? When LTR and MH2 are higher price point sets than anything in Standard, I gotta know


Money spent.

Set Sales Ranking Clarification

New 08 Apr 2024 Asked by trifas 26 Comments

Wait, Strixhaven surpasses Modern Horizons 2? Or did you mean second best premiere set? In this case, what would be the first?


I was talking about when it came out. Strixhaven came out before Modern Horizons 2.

Modern Horizon's Impact

New 27 Mar 2024 Asked by yoggh777 37 Comments

Do you have anything to say to players like me that are concerned about the potential "rotation" of modern come MH3? MH1 added a lot of extreme power to the format but MH2 made a large majority of decks obsolete and introduced so many mew archetypes that it functionally rotated the format. Lotr didn't do that but it did add some extremely pushed cards into the format. Will MH3 attempt to rotate the format again like MH2 did? And will other straight to modern sets continue to push extreme cards?


The set design and play design teams for Modern Horizons 3 were very aware of the notes from the first two Modern Horizons sets.

Nostalgia versus New Mechanics

New 01 Mar 2024 Asked by honor-basquiat 24 Comments

Hey Mark,

"Market research shows again and again that one of the biggest draws to new sets is new mechanics."

Can I push back against this notion a bit?

Nowadays, Magic very rarely introduces new sets without new mechanics but I'm not sure why you're so confident that doing more sets that make use of the existing 30+ years of mechanics rather than introducing new ones wouldn't be well received?

Modern Horizons and Modern Horizons 2 are extremely popular sets that didn't include any new keywords or mechanics. Additionally, Magic has made several new Commander deck products that have been very successful that didn't include any mechanics along with micro releases like The Walking Dead and Street Fighter cards that were very successful without relying on new mechanics.

I understand that the Modern Horizons series is a very unique product, but would Magic ever ever consider making a large premiere set that doesn't include new mechanics?

To be clear, I don't mean a Core Set product. Core sets are mostly reprints and are lower power level than Masters sets, I believe that is the reason they are less successful rather than because there aren't any new mechanics. After all, doesn't market research indicate that players like nostalgia and are constantly asking for you to revisit and expand upon existing ideas in Magic?


We do extensive market research on what players want, which means we’re constantly asking. New mechanics was high on the list twenty years ago and is high on the list today. There’s something linked to new product and new mechanics. I’d be happy to just do repeat mechanics if we thought the audience would be happy with it. Note that while Modern Horizons doesn’t use new mechanics, it uses a *lot* of old mechanics, including mixing and matching them, creating many things that feel very new. Note that the higher complexity allows us much more freedom to make newer feeling things.

Set Sales Achievement

New 21 Feb 2024 Asked by trifas 26 Comments

How has the Lord of the Rings set done in terms of sales? Has it surpassed MH2?


It has.

Card Reprint Frequency

New 04 Jan 2024 Asked by izzipurrito 43 Comments

I just want to say that I don't mind the high amount of products released each year.My main gripe is the fact that cards don't get reprinted often. The evoke elementals from MH2 were released over 2 years ago and have yet to recieve any reprint.The ally fetchlands are in desperate need of a reprint.These cards see use in a similar degree as Sol Ring in Commander, but don't get the dame reprint treatment.


We work two years ahead, so it takes time for us to reprint recently printed things.

Cabal Coffers Query

New 07 Oct 2023 Asked by flakmaniak 33 Comments

If Cabal Coffers/Stronghold effects aren't black anymore... Didn't Modern Horizons 2 putting Cabal Coffers into Modern violate the "don't put existing breaks into formats" rule? Surely that rule doesn't postdate MH2...


It’s more bend than break. It doesn’t undermine a weakness of black.

Mechanics Sales Impact

New 29 Sep 2023 Asked by honor-basquiat 45 Comments

"We make the full range from simple to complex. The issue is the design vein for new simple mechanics is just a lot lower. Thirty years in, we’ve discovered the majority of the simple ideas."

Hi Mark,

Why do you feel that Magic needs to keep exploring virgin mechanical design space at a rapid pace?

MH2 is the best selling set of all time and it didn't include any new mechanics or abilities. That indicates to me that players can be enticed and excited by some new products that don't have new mechanics. But it seems like this is something you're very rarely willing to explore more which I find interesting because often success breeds repetition in Magic.

Surely it's possible to make a few new dynamic premier sets without having to make and introduce new mechanics? Or maybe a few more sets where the only mechanics that are introduced are workhorse mechanics primarily for Limited play.


So we do constant market research. We’re very interested in what drives players to want to buy new sets. The number one driver - new content (of which a big part of it is new mechanics) We’re not constantly making new mechanics just to entertain ourselves. The audience has spoken very loudly that it’s a huge driver for them. We also track what social media and media talk about when a new set comes out and new mechanics is almost always the top spot.Modern Horizons is an exception, but it does have access to every mechanic we’ve ever done, so it’s not a fair comparison. It has an increased complexity that no other sets get.

Return to Worlds Timing

New 29 Sep 2023 Asked by haveasmileitsonme 29 Comments

Re: My previous ask about "caution" levels - With particular regards to Eldraine and Strixhaven, I was talking about their returns. You have said before that you all work about 2-3 years out and with something like Strixhaven (which came out in 2021), you've already announced a return, which tells me that Wizards likely greenlit a return with less data than usual. In a previous ask, you said Wizards greenlit MH2 even before seeing the full results of MH1. That's what I'm asking about


Modern Horizons 2 is the exception. We got to see the audience’s response to Throne of Eldraine and Strixhaven before we made the choice to return to either world. Note that Modern Horizons is a very different style of product and is more card-centric in its focus than our premier sets are. Its theme is more “complex and nostalgia rich designs”.

Tribal Card Type Status

New 28 Sep 2023 Asked by weebos 23 Comments

Correct me if I'm wrong, but while Tribal was also deciduous, appearing only in Future Sight, Lorwyn, Morningtide, and Rise of the Eldrazi before being retired (it eventually showed up again on Altar of the Goyf in MH2).


The Tribal card type was deciduous when it first appeared.

Mechanic Reuse Caution

New 28 Sep 2023 Asked by haveasmileitsonme 24 Comments

Hi Mark, can you clarify the differences between how you all are being cautious with using Battles and how somethings like returns and 2nd sets (Eldraine, Strixhaven, MH2) were approached less "cautiously" with and were greenlit before too much data was collected about the original/prior set. As an avid reader, it isn't abundantly clear to me about how exactly Wizards decides they need to be cautious of reusing a mechanic or plane.


Why were Eldraine or Strixhaven approached less cautiously? Nothing gets on our schedule without a great deal of thought.

World Setting Complexity

New 11 Sep 2023 Asked by titania776 45 Comments

In general does the creative team find making set wheres every card is set in one world (such as Wilds of Eldrain) more challenging than sets that are not bound to one world (such as Modern Horizons 2), or possibly the other way around?


More time is usually spent on the former than the latter.

Merfolk Card Concerns

New 07 Sep 2023 Asked by pixeltamer 32 Comments

Sorry to keep pestering you about characteristic creatures. I am primarily a constructed Merfolk player and it's frustrating seeing so many sets go by where there are no cards of that type other than obvious limited fodder. Looking at "cards first printed 2013 or later, neither vanilla or french vanilla" there are: 498 Vampire or Zombie, 307 Elf, 157 Goblin, 124 Merfolk. I know Ixalan and Lorwyn are coming, can R&D please try to slot more in elsewhere? The support in MH2, DMU, and MOM was great.


There are a lot of factors towards these numbers, the biggest being that blue has the smallest percentage of creatures. Also, not all characteristic creature types are equal in how often they fit on a world. We’re well aware of the Merfolk fans and we do have plans to keep making Merfolk. Finally, what are the numbers if you don’t remove Vanilla or French Vanilla? It’s an odd thing to exclude from the stats.

Token-Focused Sets

New 07 Sep 2023 Asked by thunderweb 33 Comments

If/when: a set focused on tokens – or does WOE count as one with foods and roles?


I would argue that many sets already have had tokens as a major theme. Modern Horizons 2 even had lots of different tokens as a theme which is something tricky for a premier set to do. Although, as you point out, Wilds of Eldraine does have six Role tokens and Food tokens (not to mention numerous creature tokens), and a whole mechanic, Bargain, that lets you sacrifice tokens, so it’s a pretty token-y set.

Modern Horizons Future

New 07 Aug 2023 Asked by greenpolardeer 30 Comments

Is the reception of Modern Horizons 3 critical for the possibility of Modern Horizons 4? hypothetically speaking, could it ride on the best-selling wave of Modern Horizons 2 even if Modern Horizons 3 doesn't end up selling as much?


Whenever we do a product based on another, we care how the previous versions did, but there are many other factors.


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