Infinity Elemental

Infinity Clown Rule

re: infinite clown cards in the library: Previously you've ruled (unless I'm mistaken) that a player with infinite life who is attacked by Infinity Elemental will still have infinite life after taking infinite damage. Infinity minus anything, even infinity, is still infinity.

It seems to me that the infinite clown ruling should parallel that. Once you "shuffle" infinite cards into a library it is only possible that a clown card is on top no matter how many you draw. One card minus infinite clown token cards would still leave infinite cards above whatever discrete unique card was in your finite library. Infinite draws would still leave infinite clown token cards above because (in Magic specifically based on prior ruling as I recall it) infinity minus infinity is infinity.

If I'm incorrect about that prior ruling then this doesn't stand, but to me this seems like the consistent ruling to make with regard to infinities in Magic. It's not a mathematical truth or ruling and I think players trying to approach it like that are bound to get tripped up.

I said you’re just drawing Clowns.

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Infinity and Game Mechanics

Another fun thing about infinity - you cannot pick an integer "at random" (that is, where every possible integer may be drawn drawn with equal probability). It's not a definable concept. Which also means that you cannot shuffle an infinite deck, because that is equivalent to specifying a sequence of equally likely random positions in the infinite unshuffled deck.

I hope it’s becoming more clear why Mox Lotus and Infinity Elemental aren’t eternal legal. : )

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Infinity Elemental and Saw in Half

Heya Mark! Some friends and I are planning to build Un-Commander decks, s I have a quick Un-Question for ya! If a player casts Saw in Half on an Infinity Elemental, does the controller get two Infinity/3 creatures? Or is there some other value for their power?

Half of inifinity is infinity.

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Scavenger Hunt Rules

Un-rules question. On one version of Scavenger Hunt, it asks for a "humanoid animal or alien". Would Infinity Elemental count (or any humanoid shaped elemental for that matter?)

Sure.

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Infinity Elemental Flavor Text

For the purposes of Meet and greet Sissay does infinity elemental have infinite flavor text?

No, you just count what’s printed on the card.

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Infinity Elemental's Damage

Mark, good sir. What would happen if I “Fling” an Infinity Elemental at my poor opponent?

They will lose the game unless they have some way to stop infinite damage or survive at 0 life.

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Infinite Calculations in Magic

Do Magic rules adhere to Cantor's math rules? Is it possible for one infinity to be larger than another? Example: I create an infinite amount of damage doublers, 2 ^ infinity is generally considered greater than infinity. Can I finally kill the guy who gave his Infinity Elemental lifelink?

Sadly, in Magic, infinity minus infinity is infinity.

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Ob Nixilis and Infinity Elemental

Acorn question: If I cast an Ob Nixilis, the Adversary and control an Infinity Elemental, am I allowed to declare Casualty ∞ as I do so?

You are.

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Asking about Unfinity Elemental

Any chance for an Unfinity Elemental in Unfinity to go along with Infinity Elemental from Unstable?/

If only we thought of it. : )Note that set naming happens late in the process.

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Handling Infinity Elemental

I'm pretty sure Infinity Elemental would be acorn, right? It seems like it would cause infinite rule headaches and an indeterminate divisions during tournaments.

I don’t think the normal rules can handle infinity as a number.

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'Saw in Half' on Infinity Elemental

If I Saw in Half an Infinity Elemental, half of infinity is still infinity, yeah?

Correct.

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Infinity Elemental Math Controversy

when Infinity Elemental got printed, did you get a lot of passionate, possibly angry emails from mathematicians?

A few. It turns out, mathematically speaking, infinity is not a number.

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Favorite Vanilla Creature

Favorite vanilla creature?

Infinity Elemental. : )

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Complexity in Silver Border

If negative tends to confuse players, could we see it in silver-border?What about toughness 0? Where does that stand, in both black and silver?

Silver border is aimed at an even more casual crowd than premier sets. It’s not the place for more confusing concepts.EDIT: I think my answer is coming across a little different than I meant it. Un-sets love messing around with things, but not for the sake of being inherently confusing. We enjoy pushing in directions the game hasn’t before, but we want to do so in a way that is either easy to understand or fun to figure out. Let’s take Infinity Elemental from Unstable. On the surface, having infinity power feels super quirky, but in practice it’s basically Phage. It kills any creature or player it damages. Yeah, you can dig into fun, quirky corner cases, but that’s not the game to game practicality needed to play the card; that’s fun theoretical discussion space. That can get complicated because doing something that doesn’t follow Magic’s rules can get weird in the corner cases.

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Arni Brokenbrow's Boast Ability

Un-rules question: If you activate Arni Brokenbrow's Boast ability while you control Infinity Elemental, is Arni’s power considered greater than the elemental’s?

No. Infinity plus 1 is still infinity.

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Infinity Elemental Equation

Un-rules question/math question: what is the underlying equation for the infinity elemental's infinite power. I need to know in case it dealt lifelink damage and I have infinite triggers to half a life total.

Half of infinite is still infinite. Once someone has infinite life, you’re not killing them with damage.

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Handling Infinite Squirrels

If Grusilda, Monster Masher mashes an Infinity Elemental with Earl of Squirrel, How do I manage my infinite squirrels ?

Carefully.

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Silver Border Mechanics

You said that cards in silver border can't be a card that functions in black border, but couldn't infinity elemental work in black border (assuming it was correctly costed)

No. Black border can’t handle infinity as a number. The rules questions around it get a bit metaphysical.

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Overwhelming Stampede Query

If I Overwheming Stampede with an Infinity Elemental on the board, am I increasing the total among of damage done?

No, infinity plus infinity is infinity (where in places like silver border it acts like a number).

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Infinity Elemental Stats

Infinity Elemental only has infinite power. It has 5 toughness.

Good catch. Its combined power and toughness is still infinite though.

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