Barren Glory

Card Re-imagining

New 15 Aug 2022 Asked by boxofties 58 Comments

"that doesn’t mean we couldn’t have ever made Barren Glory." But I think WOULD you is a fair question. Making a non-silly version of a unique effect made sense to get it into black border, while also not letting black border decks run 8 copies. In a world where that unique effect is legal but on a very goofy card, where is that extra copy realistically getting made?


Because we like the effect, but it needs to match the world it’s being printed in. Also Barren Glory is not the kind of card we can only let you have four of.

Existing Card Use

New 14 Aug 2022 Asked by ursadub 39 Comments

I get that you don't like people bugging you for black bordered versions of cards, but I'm imagining a world where acorn already was in effect and Barren Glory (a beautiful and somber card) never got made because The Cheese Stands Alone already existed. For me at least, that world is worse.


My issue isn’t that people are bugging me (I get bugged everyday about a large number of things). My issue is players feel that can’t use cards already printed that they want to play with. In the world where The Cheese Stands Alone was eternal legal from its printing, that doesn’t mean we couldn’t have ever made Barren Glory. It just means more players could have enjoyed it.

Transitioning Silver-Bordered Cards

New 05 Mar 2022 Asked by suigenyukiouji 28 Comments

"If an acorn card or an old silver border card later becomes possible in black border/main magic, are you more likely to just create a new card, or reuse the secret lair equivalency tech? We haven’t done it (yet), so that discussion has not happened." The Cheese Stands Alone was nearly 1:1 reprinted as a black border card in Barren Glory.


We clearly can just make a new card with a new name. The question is can we say an silver-bordered card is no longer silver-bordered and now Eternal legal? We haven’t done it, but that’s the hypothetical I was discussing.

Unfinity and Future Sight Connection

New 21 Dec 2021 Asked by wild-mongrel 40 Comments

Hey Mark, regarding Unfinity : I just figured you guys and gals previewed the drift of silver bordered cards to black borders way back in Future Sight (see Barren Glory). This set was truely prophetic ;)


So many clues to the future. : )

Silver Border to Black Border Cards

New 03 May 2021 Asked by trifas 50 Comments

Can a Silver Border card be printed in black border once it works within the rules? Or would it need to be a functional reprint?


In the past, we’ve given it a new name (as with Barren Glory).

Reprinting Silver-Bordered Card

New 27 Oct 2020 Asked by dimorrow 47 Comments

Have you ever considered reprinting a silver bordered card in black border? I know there's many that don't break the game and are really fun to play with.


The Cheese Standa Alone got remade in black border as Barren Glory.

Achieving 'The Cheese Stands Alone'

New 06 Jul 2020 Asked by ichik 33 Comments

I recently pulled off my first win with Barren Glory with my ultra-jank commander deck and it got me thinking. I am wondering whether it was possible to pull off “The Cheese Stands Alone” win in limited environment of Unglued or if that was a card intended for a constructed play?


It was intended for constructed play.

Silver-bordered to Black-bordered

New 11 Feb 2020 Asked by chazashley175 40 Comments

Your recent Tales of the Pit reminds me to ask: Can I get a maybe on any recent Silver bordered designs appearing in a future black bordered set anytime soon??


You mean the actual card like The Cheese Stands Alone became Barren Glory?

Silver to Black Border

New 02 Sep 2019 Asked by hedronsifter 58 Comments

"Un-sets are we experiment with new design space. Numerous silver border things have eventually found their way into black border." Like what?


Full-art landsCreature token cardsPacts (from Future Sight) Barren Glory (the card)One could argue Meld

Un-Mechanic Transition

New 27 Jul 2019 Asked by righteousforest 35 Comments

If the game advanced to the point that an Un-mechanic was allowed in black border, would it be possible that a card that was originally silver-border could get a black border reprint? Or would it need to be a functional "reprint"? For example, I could see As Luck Would Have It and Three-Headed Goblin feeling flavorfully at home in black border if their mechancis were supported/supportable.


It can’t as we have two rules - one that you can play any copy of a card legal in a format and another saying that you can’t play a silver-bordered card in a non-Un tournament. That is why The Cheese Stands Alone became Barren Glory when it transitioned to black border.

Card Border Errata

New 16 Feb 2019 Asked by theblocknessmonster 41 Comments

Can card borders receive errata? For example, if replacing cards on the battlefield with ones in your hand becomes a thing black-border Magic can do, could Mary O'Kill be reprinted in a black-border set?


Silver border cards can’t appear exactly in black border. It could be renamed and flavored (provided the card actually worked in black border). The Cheese Stands Alone, for instance, was redone as Barren Glory.

Functional Reprints Possibility

New 12 Mar 2018 Asked by doortonothingness 28 Comments

Are "Functional reprints" of silver-bordered cards (e.g. Barren Glory) still possible?


Yes, although the number that are allowable in black border is low.

Silver to Black Reprints

New 20 Dec 2017 Asked by burning-angrath 42 Comments

It would be easier to reprint a card into black border from silver border by making an identicle card with a different name.


Yes, that’s what we did with The Cheese Stands Alone (redone as Barren Glory).

Un Sets Mechanics

New 11 Sep 2017 Asked by myheartgoesoontz 48 Comments

Some other mechanics that started in Un sets and moved to BB: Teammates matter (Organ Harvest->Surge), The Cheese Stands Alone->Barren Glory, Changing Names of things (____->Spy Kit)


FYI

Un-sets Composition

New 14 May 2017 Asked by chetskolos 66 Comments

When I played with un-set cards the best games were with them mixed with black bordered cards. Comedian duals tend to have a funny man and a straight man. Adding a black bordered sheet to an un-set would be like having the straight man built into the set. This could be funny cards like barren glory or deranged hermit ; or black bordered cards that silver bordered cards can bounce off of. These can be reprints of existing cards or newly designed cards.


But we don’t get to do Un-sets very often. Why make part of it the straight man when the rest of Magic is the straight man?

Border Mechanics Shift

New 26 Aug 2016 Asked by gustavegraves 16 Comments

Which do you like better: silver border mechanics shifting to black border (like barren glory) or black border to silver (like enter the dungeon)?


The second isn’t black border to silver border. They’re silver border because they didn’t work in black border.

Reprinting Silver Cards

New 12 Apr 2016 Asked by teh-maxh 39 Comments

Is there a specific rule against reprinting silver-bordered cards as black-bordered, or is it an implication of a more general rule?


It’s an actual rule. Well, an intersection of two rules: Rule #1: All cards with the same name are mechanically identical. Rule #2: Silver border cards can’t be played in sanctioned tournaments (well, except specific silver border tournaments). Making silver border cards black border forces you to break one of those two rules, neither of which we wish to break. You can change the name though as we did with The Cheese Stands Alone and Barren Glory.

Card Preference

New 23 Dec 2015 Asked by iracreasman 19 Comments

Cheese Stands Alone or Barren Glory?


Cheese Stands Alone. No question.

Silver-bordered to Black

New 17 Dec 2015 Asked by ikacid 26 Comments

Theoretically, if a silver-bordered card is later acceptable in black border, could it be reprinted in black border?


Not with the same name. It can be printed mechanically identical with a new name though. This is what happened with The Cheese Stands Alone and Barren Glory (which technically isn’t identical but very close).

Winning with Barren Glory

New 28 Feb 2015 Asked by hattrauma 49 Comments

Have you ever won a game of Magic with Barren Glory? It is the best feeling in the world.


I’ve won it with The Cheese Stands Alone. I’m told it’s similar. : )


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