Blizzard Brawl

Thoughts on Blizzard Brawl

New 23 Jan 2022 Asked by jonpaulcardenas 35 Comments

I want to say I was very interested in getting your thoughts on Blizzard Brawl, and Understanding your perspective on it is really cool. We have very different views on power level/Balance and how Meta should impact what we think about cards and how they function, but your perspective was different than what I thought it would be. Could you give yourself a hi five for me? :)


Done.

Addressing Blizzard Brawl's Power

New 23 Jan 2022 Asked by yaksha89 71 Comments

The problem with blizzard brawl is simply power level. Nothing it does shouldn't be done in green. Just doing it all for 1 green mana is excessive. Its effect on a stalled board makes it feel like a 3 or 4 mana spell


Yes, it’s important to separate power level from color pie. While there is some correlation, it’s nowhere as high as a lot of people think.

Blizzard Brawl vs Kill Spells

New 22 Jan 2022 Asked by crazedporcupine 39 Comments

You yourself said that just because a card could do everything in pie, it doesn't always mean it should be printed. The biggest argument that you've said is the death touch fight spell in green. Many people feel that blizzard brawl is similar in that it is just a kill spell that is just too strong in that it also serves as a protection spell. Sure everything is in pie, but while green can get bite effects, and fighting, blizzard brawl is like the mono green death touch fight spell in that its too close to just a "kill target creature" spell in mono green.


The needing a big enough creature is what makes it different from the fight + deathtouch example.

Color Pie Integrity and Blizzard Brawl

New 22 Jan 2022 Asked by soranetworker 33 Comments

I think the issue people have with Blizzard Brawl isn't so much that it's a color pie break, but rather that when bite/fight effects are too strong it starts to encroach on Red's direct damage part of the color pie. Is keeping each color separate as important as preventing breaks? Or is it more of a pendulum thing?


Red not having to have a big enough creature with its direct damage (most of the time) is a big differential.

Blizzard Brawl's Power Boost

New 22 Jan 2022 Asked by paregmenonparadigm 34 Comments

Would Blizzard Brawl be a bend/break if it gave +7/+0 instead of +1/+0? Kind of like how Blasphemous Act is doing an in color effect at a magnitude that makes it simulate an out of color effect.


Yes, too big of a power boost would undercut the need to have a big creature.

Rating and Card Color Association

New 22 Jan 2022 Asked by jonpaulcardenas 35 Comments

Follow up to the blizzard brawl question. Is it possible for the Rate/Power level of a card to make it a break even if the effects are in color, But its now doing something it shouldn't?


The only time rate causes color pie issues is when it makes a certain color more dominant at an effect than the color that’s supposed to be dominant. Blizzard Brawl requires having a creature with power greater than the toughness of the creature you want to get rid of, so it doesn’t undermine black’s creature kill.

Interpretation of Blizzard Brawl

New 22 Jan 2022 Asked by jonpaulcardenas 99 Comments

In my opinion Blizzard brawl is a break of the color pie. The reality of how the card actually plays, is for zero deck building cost your card reads "Destroy target creature you don't control, target creature you control is indestructible". Its objectively the correct decision to run snow basics regardless of if you even have a card that cares about snow in your deck. And no strategy with green, especially in standard, Won't have a high density of creatures in it. Can you change my Mind?


Fight - primary greenGranting indestructible - secondary greenPower pumping - primary green (although green defaults to +N/+N)Caring about snow - all colors have access to itGreen is allowed to just deal damage to a creature equal to the power of a creature you have, so it often kills something without putting its own creature in jeopardy.The card is pretty solidly green. None of the effects are even a bend, and the total effect is similar to something green does regularly.


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