Torrent Elemental

Exile Return Mechanic

New 21 Aug 2019 Asked by openfirethechannelerinitiate 39 Comments

I know you said before that you don't want things coming back from exile (and I completely agree), but why do we keep getting cards that come back from exile (Torrent Elemental, that Eldrazi I forget the name of, Ilharg)? I die a little bit inside every time they print something that can't be permanently removed.


I don’t have a problem with cards that bring back themselves or cards that use exile as a holding zone. I’m against cards that can bring back any (or from a large subset) card in exile.

Torrent Elemental Recall

New 14 Nov 2015 Asked by damullet 23 Comments

MaRo, I'm surprised that of all the cards in FRF, the one you misremembered was Torrent Elemental, since it's so emblematic of a peeve of yours (in part 5 you said it came back from the graveyard, but it actually comes back from exile).


I blocked it out. : )

Un-Rules of Booster Tutor

New 27 Jun 2015 Asked by nobthehobbit 42 Comments

Un-Rules question: If I open a pack with Booster Tutor, where do the unselected cards end up? Are they in exile (in case I get Misthollow Griffin or Torrent Elemental)? Can I Wish for them (say in a setting where I can't just Wish for any card I own)?


The rest of the pack goes into the absolutely-removed-from-the-freaking-game-forever zone. The same one used by AWOL.

Torrent Elemental Objections

New 29 May 2015 Asked by imawizaaard 37 Comments

You referred to Torrent Elemental as "slipping through." Do you think Torrent Elemental (and Misthollow Griffin, for that matter) should not have been printed? Would you have tried/ did you try to stop them?


I did try to stop both and failed each time.

Exile Mechanics Evolution

New 27 May 2015 Asked by azoriusanarchist 29 Comments

Now that certain cards can return from exile like Torrent Elemental, could we ever see a black border version of AWOL and the introduction of the absolutely-freaking-removed-from-the-game-forever zone?


One card slipping through does not make a change in philosophy.

Blue Polymorph Flavor

New 10 Apr 2015 Asked by enthralled-by-victor-blog-b-blo 71 Comments

Maro, what's the flavory of blue polymorph abilities when the exiled creature can be cast again like torrent elemental?


The same flavor when you put human-sized boots on your hydra.

Card Design Philosophy

New 02 Jan 2015 Asked by cowardbungle-deactivated2023082 69 Comments

Since you're head designer, why do cards like "Torrent Elemental" still keep getting made? Is it a development thing or just because you weren't the lead for the set?


Development and I had a chat and we decided that the real issue was players being able to get back other cards that they have exiled. Cards that get themselves back are much less of a danger so I’ve agreed to accept cards that can return themselves provided that their effect is not problematic if repetitive.


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