Icing Manipulator

Rosie and Icing Ruling

Mark, I have a question for the Acorn Rules Manager. This weekend I was judging The MagicCon: Chicago Cube event and had multiple players draft Rosie Cotton and Icing Manipulator. We ruled that putting a +1/+1 counter on a creature was not the same as creating a token, even if that +1/+1 counter happens to be a food token. What is the official ruling on this interaction?

The token becoming a Food doesn’t happen until its on the creature, so your ruling was correct.

Conventions Creatures Draft Formats Food Icing Manipulator Rules Manager Tokens Un-Magic / Silver Border / Acorn Un-sets

Un-rules Question

Hi Mark, i have an Un-rules questionIf i have Icing Manipulator on the battlefield, will putting a +1/+1 counter on a permanent count as creating a token for effects that care about that, such as Rosie Cotton of South Lane?

No. The static effect doesn’t turn it into a Food until it’s on the creature which misses the window for the trigger.

Creatures Food Icing Manipulator Rosie Cotton of South Lane Tokens Un-sets

Icing Manipulator Query

why is Icing Manipulator from Unfinity not legal in commander? Doesn't it just make you pay 2 mana and remove a +1/+1 counter from a creature to gain 3 life? Really wanted to play this in my Kodama of the West Tree EDH deck.

The rules don’t allow a counter to also be a token.

Commander Creatures Format Legality Icing Manipulator Kodama of the West Tree Mana Rules Tokens

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